Discussion: Revised Timeline Of Vegas Massacre Raises Questions On Police Response

Hard to believe the former time-line after reading this. If he was shot FIRST, HE evidently didn’t report it at all, although he had plenty of time to even call in to 911. Who was this (previously unmentioned) maintenance man.

Who are the police trying to protect? The reputation of the hotel? The security guard? Themselves, because this whole thing was a nefarious set-up to implicate someone with a sketchy but clean past?

The story about different clocks doesn’t do it for me.

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On Monday, Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Stephen Paddock shot and wounded a Mandalay Bay hotel security guard outside his door…

Um, that was last week Monday, not yesterday, right?

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Actually the different clock settings is the most believable part of the story. But it sounds like we were lucky that more people weren’t killed and injured.

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But we are talking about a 20 minute difference; not 5.

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That’s pretty silly, they had no reason to set anyone up. On occasion, people do shit like this.

Also, in these type of chaotic situations, there is always conflicting info at first, and it takes time to sort it out. I recall conspiracy nuts saying fighter jets could have easily shot down the second plane that hit the Tower and also 77 that hit the Pentagon. They based this on taking selected items from preliminary reports, etc. Then when you do the research, you find out the conspiracy nuts are full of it. What’s funny is that if everything was immediately reported and the story never changed, conspiracy nuts would claim that it must have been staged because they would claim there is always conflicting info initially.

I don’t find it hard to believe that the police initially thought the guard had interrupted the shooting, etc. Plus there are hundreds of agents and investigators on this. The notion that they are all following a script of some kind as some big plot is not even remotely possible. People always leak.

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I’m fascinated to learn that you can fire 200 shots down the hallway of a las vegas hotel without provoking an immediate massively armed response.

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Sure, we all know that “what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”. Actually that seems to mean what happens in a Vegas hotel stays in that Vegas hotel. I have heard no hand gun fire from anything near close by, so I’m ignorant about how loud it is. I am now assuming that the sound wasn’t much louder than a dripping faucet in a bathroom. So, why would anyone report it??

I’m pretty sure the official report was “fired shots into the hallway,” not “down the hallway.” That might make enough of a difference if nearby rooms were not occupied at the time. Few people come to Vegas to sit in their hotel rooms at 10 pm. Especially when many of them would very likely have attended that event right across the street…

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I’m pretty sure the official report was “fired shots into the hallway,” not “down the hallway.”

Right, I believe he shot through the door. This must have made Paddock realize, he had to start shooting, maybe he had hoped for more setup time (judging by the arsenal, he had there) ? Might have saved some lives…

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If not for the accidental discovery of Paddock setting up defenses designed to slow the police down, this attack could have been worse. he was prematurely forced to to begin his attack on the crowd, which was bait designed to lure his real target, the police. that’s my theory, until it isn’t.

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Fasulo explained the change in the timeline by saying that dozens of investigators have been using different sources of information — including surveillance video, computers, police body cameras, cellphones and interviews — and that not all clocks were in sync…

It should go without saying that investigators have to deal with conflicting information and put the pieces together as they get new information, which is why official statements shouldn’t be put out so early, but I’m not sure what to think about the claim of different times. I’m curious about which of the devices above would be likely to have the incorrect time. As far as interviews,I think most investigators probably would take any claim of specific times with a grain of salt because people are notoriously bad at estimating time.

ETA: If any of the computers were laptops owned by visitors from different time zones, that could account for some discrepancies.

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I’ve seen pretty much all of “Reno 911”, so I’m kind of an expert on urban crime and policing errors in Nevada.

I’m doing my own thorough armchair investigation. All I can report right now now is Deputy Junior’s moustache is likely involved. More soon.

Some of the Security positions I’ve worked at have had security monitors that displayed time & date as well as the camera’s image.

At one, the date and time were off by over five years. (My guess is that the timestamp was set for when the unit was manufactured, and no one bothered to update the information when the unit was eventually installed and turned back on.)

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