Discussion: Republicans May Be Back On The Defensive In 2016

They are on the defensive now because of the President’s latest actions.

That’s the funny part. It may come to armed insurrection but it will be the most strident right-wing groups – Bundy militias, disaffected veterans who follow Allen West, reactionary Westboro Bible-thumpers, and, naturally, the Klan-inspired race war purveyors – who launch the first attack. Having a Congressional majority is irrelevant to people who want blood to flow in the streets.

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“But I think we have a really good opportunity here in the next couple years. We will reach out to the other side. I think Americans, Wisconsonites, will find out that we’re not the party of ‘no.’”

Little late, cross-burners… You don’t get to obstruct everything right up until you run for reelection, then get off scott free.

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Let it be, let it be. Feingold losing, by double digits IIRC, to that dumbfuck was the supreme insult of that horrible year. No way that guy should be anywhere near a lever of power.

How is the Dem bench in NV?

The problem is, that their offense will be really offensive.

OK, we’re not even done with the Holidays in 2014, and already I’m sick and tired of the merry-go-round on both sides of the same sided political coin.
In a bit under two weeks, control of the Senate shifts. If you can’t find enough reason to concentrate on the fright train bearing down on you 100 yards away, why in the heck should anyone be burning brain cells thinking about the freight train that is a mile and a half up the tracks?
It is as if there’s no political problems to be dealt with NOW. Everyone and everything is focusing on 2016, where and when everyone is so darn sure that some magical being is going to descend from on high and make everything right with a single sweep of her magic ward.
Hang 2016. Myself and loads of other folks will have to survive in the here and the now, and hope we’re all still here when 2016 rolls around.
You want a political issue to fasten onto? I’ll give you one.
How about plain old SURVIVAL in the face of “government” by a Party that has set it;s sights on taking everything they can from everyone they can, so that THEY can have more, more, more, and people on the edge have LESS and LESS, and LESS.
How many people are going to slide over the edge, into the abyss before this “magical” day on January 20, 2017?
That’s the only “politics” I am interested in. The rest is just wind and noise, to hide the quiet desperation which still grips too many lives every day in this country. And make no mistake about it. No amount of premature punditry is going to stop it from getting a lot worse a lot sooner than all these political prognosticators think.

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52-47 margin of victory.

With Voter ID laws expanding in GOP controlled states and the CRomnibus loosening of campaign finance rules, I doubt the Democrats will get the Senate back.

Wisconsin is now a province of the Kochtopus Empire and Johnson will be propped up by a river of cash from his imperial masters and Feingold will be in “better to lose pure than win dirty” mode again. I don’t know what the answer is, and I don’t think it’s selling yourself to the Kochs’ ideological foes in the battle for control of the right, but pretending like the campaign finance laws you helped pass still exist and hoping the purity of your heart will overcome being outspent 10:1 isn’t it.

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Let’s see if the GOP can handle the Veto in the same way as they constantly used the Hold and Filibuster. They are playing right into the hand of the President who can finally show the electorate the fight and drive they expected when he was first elected. It will play well for Hillary and all Democratic candidates running in 2016. They will not feel compelled to run away from him and their progressive values.
Income inequality will be The Issue and the only thing that counts to voters.

Can’t wait to see how the GOP pours on the misery for the middle class, underemployed and seniors. They can’t help themselves. Ayn Rand is their Goddess and only Savior.

Problem with that is that we are now on a perpetual seesaw between Dems and Pukes, and the Dems always seem to take the wrong message from their defeats in other states. Don’t run on populist campaigns, run as close to the “center” - now the middle-right - as possible. Don’t run on national issues, run on parochial concerns. Try to appeal to people who won’t vote for you is Jesus Christ was standing on the dais waving your sign, but don’t work to recruit and remind those who most need to vote that the Rs are trying to take their right to vote away.

And above all, run away from the successes that earlier Dems worked so hard to get. By 2018 Obamacare will be entrenched and no one will remember that the Thugs tried to strangle it from crib to kindergarten.

@Nathan_S - I still haven’t heard a credible argument for Dems staying home, except for those above that frustrated me so much. Thoughts?

@mojojojo-they did get away with it this time. Just look at Kansas.

@sandyh - I don’t think we’d be in this position if Obama had shown the fight and drive we elected him for. And I wonder how many Blue Dogs will vote to overturn a veto out of loyalty to their institutions rather than their constituents.

Can you tell I’m depressed/angry about Nov 2014?

Any changes to Social Security will be for future retirees, not the current ones. The GOP may be idiots, but they know better than to alienate their geriatric base. The GOP will try to paint future SS recipients as moochers.

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Don’t worry. The GOP/Teatrolls controlled states will be messing with election laws and procedures as instructed by ALEC for the next two years. By the time August 2016 rolls around, pundits will be claiming the “fundamentals” favor the GOP/Teatrolls.

Oh in Kansas sure. They love hypocrisy there. Brownback won office as a deficit hawk and turned out to be the deficit’s friend. Johnson is from Wisconsin.