Discussion: Reports: Trump Admin Considering Draft Executive Order To Withdraw From NAFTA

Not that I wanna see it but knowing how wedded this administration is to distraction, have we forgotten about the pee-pee tape?

Where is it? Has the pee-pee tape shown up yet?

Treaties are ratified by the Senate and have the force of law, Fuck Stick. The USofA cannot withdraw from a treaty by executive action any more than a law can be repealed by executive action. I hate #45’s so-called Presidency more and more every single day.

And by the way, where are the loud mouths in the hoi poloi who screamed and howled when Pres. Obama used Executive orders (for completely legal purposes, IMHO)? In spite of controlling both houses of Congress and the Presidency, pretty much all #45 has is Executive orders. I am tired of all of the winning. #sad

Dutch textile workers used to throw their wooden shoes (sabo) into the automated loom machinery to destroy it (thus the term “sabotage”.)

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I am on the verge of apoplexy.

I can’t quit Amazon. Amazon has managed to make itself almost indispensable. I know the left loves to hate on Amazon but I just can’t manage without it without causing myself all kinds of trouble because for half the year I live someplace where a lot of things aren’t readily available except from Amazon.

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This is why I love TPM, khaaannn - I learn something new every day.

I found myself wrapped up in an unplanned home project over the weekend and started watching the BBC 6-episode series Victorian Farm on youtube and that’s where I starting hearing about dawn of the industrial revolution and the impact on manual labor. Couldn’t help thinking of the parallels of today so it stuck with me.

Sabos - interesting. I’d like to see the Oranage Menace dodge a wooden shoe. W was more agile than I would have given him credit for.

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I’d guess that’s one reason for taking this step – the step of drafting a withdrawal memo, I mean. It’s “safe” because it doesn’t actually result in withdrawal. It’s like passing legislation repealing the ACA over and over while Obama is POTUS.

I’m not suggesting there’s no impact. There could be a highly negative impact if our trade partners become motivated to abandon us and look for more reliable counterparties. But for Trump, that’s presumably irrelevant. What would matter to him is whether he can claim a checkmark-victory and whether he can blame trade-related bumpiness on his political rivals.

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Our country will be lower than third world the longer tRUMP and the republiCONz are in power. As it is, we are really screwed.

The shoes are sabots, hence the T in “sabotage.”

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I think that Trump is making this decision on NAFTA and the National Monuments as a bargaining chip to get the people who are against his tax plan or health insurance plan, must accept something that in the plan they don’t like, in order to him to not take away NAFTA or National Monuments, which he was not going to do anyway. This is like North Korea, arresting US citizens, for a bargaining chip against the United States, because the release of these citizens are part of the negotiations and the US usually gives something up to North Korea, that would not have gotten without the arrested innocent U.S. citizens included in the negotiations.

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A Mexican Senator proposes to buy corn from Brazil/Argentina, leaving Midwest farmers holding the bag! I hope they go through with it!

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testing the water…

In French it was “sabo” but “sabot” is interchangeable with it.
Now they are just called “clogs”.

“Sabot” now means “carrier” or “holder” most commonly used in armaments nomenclature to indicate a non-rifled discardable “shoe” for a round of ammunition to fit into a larger barrel. Solid tungsten “dart” rounds in Tank ammunition typically use “sabots” that fall away when fired leaving the much thinner “dart” round to go down range.

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It’s legal if that pie faced cracker AG. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III says so.

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Also the root of saboteurs.

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Just to clarify, “sab-oh” is how it is pronounced in French. The French word is spelled “sabot.”

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Canadians export a lot of food to the US. Live in a farming area that’s pretty much pro Trump so will be hilarious if they do close the border.

http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/industry-markets-and-trade/statistics-and-market-information/agriculture-and-food-market-information-by-region/united-states-and-mexico/trade-data-and-analysis/competitive-trade-analysis-united-states/?id=1441897108056

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The National Embarrassment is accelerating China’s inroads as preferred “Great Power” partner for development funding throughout Africa, and now South and Central America.

What used to be “Pity poor Mexico, so far from God, so close to the United States” may well become “Let’s build missiles together, Comrade, as we both have lots of nimble-fingered folk”.

China’s activities in the South China Sea continue, our allies in that region are rightfully dazed and confused, and this whole Trans-Pacific Partnership thingee could get seriously weird pretty quickly. I’m not saying the NE would order missile strikes on one of his leased tie factories on the Mainland, but Saipan???

yeah. and we get their crummy tar sands slime. thanks, donald, you whack job.

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Nice imagery, but I’m pretty sure people at or near the bottom were poor enough during the industrial revolution that they couldn’t afford to wantonly toss away their shoes :wink:

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