Aiding and abetting groups seeking to overthrow the United States government is usually held to suffice.
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To me this is crucial. I see this getting buried. I got all of this from reputable media sources, yet nowhere that I’ve seen have the media raised this point. They think it’s enough to say Nazis and white supremacists. That should be enough, but it’s not.
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Miller Translation: “The president WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED.”
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There is no more organization on the far right than among the Antifa types. That’s why the SPLC hate group list is so long. There are dozens of Klan and Neo-Nazi groups. The last vestiges of unity among Nazis died with George Lincoln Rockwell and among the Klans then the SPLC broke the back of the UKA.
Organization is irrelevant, however. It’s the ideology of force and violence as instruments of political power and opposition to the rule of law that is common element of far left and far right ideology.
And as to the difference between the a people who volunteered to fight in Spain and the Stalin apologists of the Thirties, I recommend spending a bit of time with Orwell’s post Civil War essays.
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It’s more that that. Trump is seeking to align the GOP with white supremacists and making the point that they can rule the nation together forever on this basis. They can gerrymander together. They can suppress the vote together. The people behind Trump know well that the GOP is the party of white supremacy and they’re saying “Now is the time to make that stand”. He’s offering them a chance to join a Putin-like rulership of oligarchy over the entire USA.
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But sending daily memos like that is so inefficient. It will work much better, once they install the loudspeakers everywhere, that will instruct all loyal citizens what to think.
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The G.W. Bush Whitehouse issued statements every day to their followers. I think they originated with Roger Ailes.
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H.G. Wells’ Babble Machines.
And it …is leaked…and backfires…embarrassingly…of course. Oh please come out and whine that no one protects you after you embarrass the party…and threaten your caucus…LOSER
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Yeee-Haw!
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Stop. I am embarrassing myself while having my coffee at a Starbuck’s and laughing uncontrollably. I need humor, thanks.
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Agreed… in spades.
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Well, there’s the black guy who bags his groceries. Nice fella, knows his place.
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And as for the apoligia from academe published by the WaPo, it’s just the same bullshit about how breaking heads in the names of righteousness is a good thing that’s been used to market the ideology of every authoritarian tyranny or terror movement to the gullible ever.
Antifascists argue that after the horrors of chattel slavery and the Holocaust, physical violence against white supremacists is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective.
Yeah, same kind of “reasoning” used by lynch mobs and terrorist organizations throughout history.
We should not, they argue, abstractly assess the ethical status of violence in the absence of the values and context behind it.
Bullshit. Purest evil propagandist bullshit. Every blood drenched mass-murdering tyranny of the 20th Century propounded this facile eyewash. The blood-drenched tyrannies that purported to be leftist were particularly fond of it, but it was and is at the core of Nazi ideology as well. And it’s the same facile eyewash that concealed mass graves. It’s the belief system that informed the acts of every White Citizens Council and Sovereignty Commission in the south as they acted as the intelligence arm of the local Klans. It’s the common thread linking Hitler to Stalin and Pinochet to Castro.
The ends never justify the means because the end you achieve is necessarily the product of the means you use to achieve it, not what you say your intended end was.
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Which I knew.
What I am getting at is that some groups spouting unpopular rhetoric cross that line of seeking to overthrow the government and/or abide by the rule of law.
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Did the memo have Trump’s ego-sized, spiky, Sharpie signature on it? If so, he can count it as one of his “legislative accomplishments”.
Are these alt left dudes killing cops and inciting violence at political rallies showing their cards or are we stereotyping certain demographics?
Maybe I’m just shortsighted but those statements seem to further the obvious racism.
How could Trump possibly be wrong with his statements? The USA and its Allies spent three and a half years trying to eradicate the world of these vermin. We thought they were stamped out in 1945. Now the President of the United States of America gives life to these deplorable, hateful assholes. He just denigrated every American and their families who fought the Nazis in Africa and Europe and pissed on the graves in Belgium and Normandy, France of those who died in that struggle. As President Obama sang Amazing Grace at the SC church when one of those despicable waste of a human slaughtered people in A CHURCH!, I expected Trump to break out with Deutchland Uber Alles yesterday. What a disgusting person. If it takes violence to remove us of this cancer, so be it. We did it before and we can do it again.
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I’ve been opposed to antifa riots and other violence since the election…and still am. However, a good friend who’s an atheist Jew from the former Soviet Union pointed out to me that maybe the problem in Germany during the early days of the Nazi rise is that the Germans didn’t riot enough.
It’s a striking point. Not one I’m willing to embrace, but she makes a truly excellent point.
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“The President was entirely correct …"
So correct that donnie’s unscripted rant elicited a grimace from Kelly behind the curtains.
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