Discussion: READ: Trump Sues Cummings To Halt Probe Into His Finances

I don’t think this will work for him. He really doesn’t seem to understand that, as POTUS, he can’t pretend that he’s just a private citizen.

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My first emotional reaction to this lawsuit today was elation.

For the reasons you list here.

The name is Donald “Lawlessness” Trump, not Donald John Trump.

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Yet the MSM have also spent the past few months referring to House oversight as Dem oversight.

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Mr. Cummings could be heard down the hallowed halls of Congress singing Karaoke to The Heat Is On.

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There is no such entity as “The Democrat Party.”

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When a POTUS decides to continue his private enterprises and perpetuate the innumerable conflicts they create with his official responsibilities, oversight must involve either looking deeply into those private dealings or abandoning any pretense of actual oversight.His only “exemption” is from 18USC 208, the criminal conflicts of interest statute, because that is dealt with typically by recusal from certain matters where there is a conflict—- and POTUS can’t recuse as a practical matter. It doesn’t mean there are not conflicts that must be scrutinized under any reasonable definition of oversight. And in this case the conflicts are legion.

Were this suit to succeed, conflicts and related POTUS decision-making will remain forever in the shadows. That’s a really bad result for the Country, Trump be damned.

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Traditionally the courts have been unwilling to engage in fights between the Executive and the Legislative branches. Let’ see if Mitch McConnell’s court packing efforts will pay off for the Republicans.

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So clients dont have any standing? I suspected this was the case. Can you explain why?

ICYMBI

The Supreme Court has refused to block a Senate panel’s subpoena seeking records from Backpage.com about the prevalence of ads for sexual services, including incidents of minors being sexually trafficked via the site.

Chief Justice John Roberts stepped in last week, temporarily halting enforcement of the subpoena from the investigative subcommittee of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee while the high court considered the stay application.

However, in an order Tuesday, the court denied the stay sought by the online classified-ad website Backpage and its CEO Carl Ferrer. No justice publicly dissented from the court’s action, although Justice Samuel Alito indicated he recused himself from the case.

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The ‘Democrat’ party? The just can’t slur enuf, can they. Just wait until 3rd grade recess! They’ll REALLY ladle it out. Boy howdy! And since he incorrectly identifies the ‘Democratic Party’, throw out the suit.

He keeps calling the Dems the ‘Democrat’ party. Guess we’ll have to keep calling him an idiot, crook, liar, grifter, con man and pretender to the Office.

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IANAL, but seeing as how many of the documents being sought came from and apply directly to tRump, I would think they would have standing. I’m certain the legal bodies on here can verify or dismiss my thinking.

Will we get an opportunity for discovery out of this?

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Good question!

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Tweedle Dum in full tantrum

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Wonder what the (Trump cover up) plan is to do about Deutche bank? They signaled that if subpoenaed, they would comply and turn over records regarding filings from Trump Org for loans etc.

Didn’t we learn a month or so ago that the bank wrestled with what to do if Do-bad Donnie defaulted on loan repayments while in office, and decided not to take any action until after he was out of office (I mean what bank wouldn’t want to hold that much financial sway over a sitting US President)?

Does the cover up team sue the bank to prevent them from complying Drawing an ever larger spotlight to their dubious arrangements (is the Trump Org making their payment obligations currently?) Devour the hand that feeds the president’s family and their fraud-spree business?

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Intentional slur. Joseph McCarthy was one of the first thugs to use it to diminish the Democratic brand. How grown up and sophisticated that lardass’s henchmen use it in a filing document.

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I am a legal layperson. Is this as jaw-droppingly stupid as I think it is? I understand that there’s this little thing called the “discovery process”…

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For Trump knows he’s engaged in wrongdoing uglier than anything Mueller has disclosed. Dems know this too.

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As someone who practiced law for 34 years, my initial impressions after a quick read of this pleading:

  1. It’s a political screed. Citations to accusations (See, e.g.
    “The Rachel Maddow Blog”} are not provided, this screams sloppy lawyering to me, not to mention it’s weak on providing facts to justify a preliminary injunction, let alone a declaratory judgement;

  2. Nearly all of the cases they cite are very old. This doesn’t mean they aren’t good law, but it’s a red flag when you are citing cases from 1890;

  3. The Complaint, as far as I can see, is unverified (not sworn to). Injunctions require a showing of imminent harm AND must be verified.

Sloppy at best. Poor lawyering. Intended for political impact and intimidation of witnesses, not really to obtain a legal remedy.

Watch for which DC federal judge the case gets assigned to.

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As a general rule, parties can’t just wedge themselves into legal matters in which they are not involved. Cummings isn’t sending a subpoena to Trump. The financial work done on behalf of Trump by Mazar is the property of the accounting firm.

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