Discussion: READ: Papadopoulos Charges With The Mystery Trump Camp Officials Filled In

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A nice start, but I’m just waiting to see ā€œDonald Trumpā€ in red letters inserted into many beautiful (the best) future state and federal indictments.

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Legality Mad Libs!

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I’m sorry, but did you not get the memo from NYC, TPM? This is no longer a story and doesn’t matter at all ever again.

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Or Junior, because if Junior was informed, Trump was informed. I would assume the same with Jared.

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That’s a good point, but another name that hasn’t hit with the probe that we know HAS to is Flynn. I like looking at who isn’t in the document, then at the sealed indictments. It gives me warm fuzzy feelings.

Those guys must be terrified.

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A number of names are still missing… Page, Flynn, Trump Jr., Kushner… just for starters.

What I find most intriguing about the timeline contained in the charges document, is what Papadopoulos was doing around the same time Junior, Kushner and Manafort were meeting with the Russian attorney, the ā€œexā€ spy, and the two other Russians in attendance (one presumably ā€œjust a translatorā€)…

How did this meeting tie in to the work Papadopoulos and others were doing to try and a) connect functionally with the Russian government and b) dig up dirt from foreign sources on Clinton?

The ā€œFemale Russianā€ referred to, could that have been the Russian attorney the Campaign heads met with, on the assumption she was bringing the ā€œdirtā€ Papadopoulos referred to? Who is ā€œthe professorā€? It isn’t the PR guy that connected Junior with the Russians, is it? If not, then multiple threads were being woven toward meetings and ā€œcooperationā€ regarding ā€˜dirt on Clinton’…

Which, as Trump has so cluelessly stated, would be no big deal if it were normal ā€œopposition researchā€, but once they reach out to a (nominally hostile) foreign state to get ā€˜inside info’ on the political opposition, it crosses the line.

Why don’t they get that? And when you add in ā€œfollow the moneyā€, the strings start tying together really easily. I think Mueller is tying up loose ends, and probably has plenty to indict multiple members of the campaign, possibly including Junior and Kushner. There may not be direct evidence of Trump’s involvement, but at some point you simply can’t say he wasn’t in the loop. His declaration at that rally, asking Russia to help find Clinton’s emails, and his other declaration (after the meeting with the Russian attorney had been set up) that there would be big, breaking news about ā€œcrooked Hillaryā€ the following week… That showed he was fully aware of the machinations going on, and so he referred to the ā€œdirtā€ they expected was incoming. Did some portion of it arrive? Probably. Were they cautioned about making it public (just yet?), probably. And so Trump just blew past it and never mentioned it again.

There is so much there that implies his full knowledge of the goings on. This is the just the first small tip of a very large iceberg… mark my words. Mueller has got the goods, with plenty more he’s trying to pry out of the rogue’s gallery.

I’m concerned that Manafort may just plead the fifth and take the fall. Given the choice between prison or an angry international mafiosi network? With his life in danger, he’d probably endure the few years in prison, get out after a couple of years, go on probation, and that’s that… OR, he could rat out a major gallery of rogues, and see where that leads. Either way, he’s in dangerous waters…

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...once they reach out to a (nominally hostile) foreign state to get 'inside info' on the political opposition, it crosses the line.
These guys are perennial losers who will do anything to win. That's what they did here, and they have destroyed themselves politically doing it.

They did not step over the line to win the election. They were totally ignorant of the fact that there was a line, and in their incompetence they trashed themselves.

Trump and his crew of idiots are going to replace Benedict Arnold as America’s greatest traitors.

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Is it only me that thinks that Mueller already has the campaign dead to rights, for AT LEAST conspiracy to collude with a foreign power to effect an election?

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All of this needs to be read in the context of this level of Russian interference (disclosed today, not final tally):

• 36,746 Russian twitter accounts
• 288 million impressions
• 1.4 million election tweets
• 1,100 Russian YouTube videos

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no

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In early March 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS learned he would be a foreign
policy advisor for the Campaign.

All Oval office employees were told to call him Coffee Boy, but were instructed not to tell him to ā€œget coffeeā€. ā€œGet Blinisā€ was OK but don’t expect them for at least a week.

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Donald Trump’s bottomless ego was fluffed by Putin so perfectly, that Donnie would have given him the nuclear codes, eventually.

THAT is why all this is a big fucking deal.

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Corey sez, ā€œIf you can’t beat the women, join the Russians!ā€

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I don’t ordinarily comment on people’s appearances, but if Pencil-neck Kushner were enmeshed in this mess, I would applaud. This arrogant little prick could have taken down the republic, and not turned a hair. Who are these people/??!!!

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Trump: It looks like CNN paid a Russian spy over $1Million. Someone needs to do something and hold CNN accountable for hiring Lew.

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Based on all the furious attempts to discredit Mueller and/or switch the narrative to Clinton/Podesta/EasterBunny, and the general running around like so many ants after a brick dropped on the anthill … I’d say no, it’s not just you.

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And this has what to do with the meeting that actually happened? You are telling me that was ANOTHER Russian plot? Geemany-krimany

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Don’t forget, Ivanka!!

Traitors.

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