Discussion: ‘Raise Hell’: In Trump Era, Blue State Dems Have Made Huge Strides

Love your optimism!!!

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Speaking of endangered species (red pockets in blue states) … Lieu trolls Nunes at the behest of Nunes constituents.

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Love it!!!

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Is someone being cute or can Pres. Obama actually track his family tree back to Washington?
Edit: I’m looking at the seal.

Yes that worries me too. Wasn’t the talk a few months ago all about the way to win being a movement or progressive voters to the red states? If the opposite is happening, you’re right that it won’t change the electoral college mess at all. And that isn’t good.

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Not an “expense,” an investment.

Your lips to dog’s ears, but that is exactly the kind of slow demographic change that creates the kind of panic reaction I’m talking about. West Virginia and Kentucky are, at best, going to turn to being more two-party competitive again, as they have traditionally been for decades. Oklahoma is going to be a right wing enclave for forever. We may flip Oklahoma in the reverse of the kind of wave I’m talking about them using to amend the Constitution, but it will always regress, and I use the word advisedly, to its very abnormal norm. And Texas? Well Blue Texas is to politics as fusion power is to clean energy.

Some academic and popular historians have made the case that the Fire-Eater push for secession in the 1850’s was a response to a growing concern that the way deep south factory plantation states were buying enslaved people out of the border states to replace the ones they were killing (the “getting sold south” trend that, at the micro level, drove the plots of both Uncle Tom’s Cabin and Huckleberry Finn) was rapidly creating a situation where Kentucky, Missouri, Delaware, and, looking a bit further into the future, even Virginia and Tennessee, would no longer have a powerful pro-slavery constituency other than residual racism and thus might flip to abolitionism. There was real panic about that and that panic drove the secessionists to fuel ever more extreme and divisive measures and positions.

And if rural Republicans in small states see the same trend, we could see the same kind of threatened panic set in among them. And states have real power in our system, no matter how few people there are. One of the things I would expect to see from them is some kind of attempt to undermine one-man, one vote congressional seat apportionment fueled by propaganda portraying the size and power of blue state delegations as some kind of threat to the vision of the Founders or moral decency or local rule.

Indeed, we are already seeing that happening right now with the pervasive demonization of and fearmongering about California on the right. It is an article of faith among Hate Radio/Fox addicted right that California is the source of all evil, a socialist scourge, a parasite draining tax revenue from their states (yeah, they really believe that bit of projection) a veritable liberal hell of heavy taxation and restricted liberty, miscegenation and moral degeneracy. One can scarcely find a rural white working class male in red states who will not share, with crazy-eyed zealotry, his profound wish for an earthquake that will cause California to “slide into the sea” (along with 1/7th of the GDP, every TV show they watch and about half the U.S. military and half defense industry, but they don’t think abou that).

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They will always find, and always have found, a reason to panic. We can only take responsibility for our own forward movement and then move forward.

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Since the federal government is trying to undermine our rights, it’s good to see the states shoring them up.

Not just a wave in November, a tsunami. VOTE!

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Like I said in another post, though, that’s exactly the kind of change that will fuel the panic that leads to an “amend the Constitution away” strategy. The strategy would be to get amendments with no sunset provisions that knee-cap the power of the blue states, and the federal government, out of Congress after a wave election, quickly rack up twenty five to thirty ratification in the deep red states and whichever purple states they happen to control, and then, every time a purple state flips red, whether due to local or national sentiment, push another ratification out of the state legislature.

It may well be impossible for them to do it through Congress. If they couldn’t do it after the 2010 gerrymander, their chance may have be lost forever. But that’s why the oligarch class is already at work trying to get states to sign off on a call for a constitutional convention. Take a look at this site and then ask yourself who, oh who, could possibly be funding something like this?

No need to guess. Common Cause has already done the work for us. Yeah, it’s the same VRWC oligarchs as usual–the Kochs, the Texas real estate barons,

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Just never mind about ‘getting even’ with the GOP Cocksuckers, no matter how tempting it is. Just GET STUFF DONE. That was the problem with the Democrats in 2010: They kept trying to work with GOP Cocksuckers who didn’t WANT to work with them. When they are thrown out of office, you can compromise again and get things done.

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Dear GOP gangsters, grifters, and traitors:

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All well and good but what do Democrats do when Republicans simply refuse to play by the rules? What happens when they say fuck it, we’re not gonna let your Supreme Court nom have a hearing? What will Democrats do when Red state moderate Democrats join Republicans.

If Democrats have taught the GOP anything, it’s that there’s no repercussions for them…

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A little too cute. This ain’t the picture of the typical Dem.

It should be a picture of an old white woman in a pantsuit threatening to write a sternly worded letter.

The Democratic trifecta is coming soon to Illinois, once the hopelessly incompetent GOP Governor Rauner loses. He’ll be crushed.

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Woo Hoo Raising Hell!

I love this.

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How many people live in those 8 trifecta blue states versus the 26 red trifucta over states?

Amen. But I’d go a step further. They are traitors to democracy. They would become communists tomorrow if they thought it would allow them to get their way. They only care about tribal power.

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I would argue that they are communists today and have been for quite some time.

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This very blue voter is leaving (my beloved) Bay Area (N. Pelosi’s District, to be precise.)
And where am I going? To Indiana. Granted, to a county that is pastel purple. I intend to work to change it to reliably blue. Or at least reliably blue-ish. (South Bend DID elect a mayor who is a gay man.)

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