Discussion: Protests Turn Violent In Ferguson

Look at what is happening and think back - 45 to 50 years ago in the South or - 70 years to Warsaw, and other places in Nazi Germany.

Is this that different? Have we as a nation not changed since the 1960’s? Why do police departments need track mounted .50 cal machine guns?

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Folks, if you have not read this yet, you really should:

Bring it, you fucking animals! Bring it!” is not “protecting and serving”, and any American who supports this doesn’t deserve to be called an American.

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WTF? Ferguson has a population of 20K and those cops look like they belong in the streets of Faluja .Armored cars with machine guns on top? Give me a break. Do you possibly think that if they had cops dressed like actual cops meeting and talking with the people attitudes would be different?

Robocop indeed . Fiction becomes fact

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An independent investigation could sift all the evidence to see if there’s anything at all that could corroborate the police version. All I know is that everything I’ve heard about Michael Brown’s short life says he was the last person who’d attack a police officer without provocation and try to take his gun. It’s just not plausible.

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They said It Can’t Happen Here

It looks like “they” were wrong.

If the protesters held up signs denouncing the Federal Government the right would cheer them, wouldn’t they?

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go2goal,
My, My, My, what a very, very short selective memory you have!
You must have the developed the “Selective Memory Disorder” that’s infected the entire Republican Tea-Bag Party!

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2005/08/30/1683/as-katrina-struck-bush-vacationed/

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It certainly is starting to come to that, it seems.

I shudder to imagine what would have happened in 1962 if Bull Connor had had military weaponry in addition to water hoses and German Shepherds.

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The way i see it is, the police not the residents/protestors are the problem.

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Every profession has people in it for the wrong reasons, and that’s a serious problem when then profession involves the privilege to use deadly force. This militarization trend is just indulging the segment of cops who harbor a hysterical violence in their psyches, and it’s obviously hurting the overall goal of protecting the community. Societal dialogue time, clearly.

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It will be interesting when the governor shows up today,won’t it? I wonder if they will dare to arrest him, too.

As I said yesterday, its clear they have no concept of the end game here. Its gone far beyond one cop shooting an unarmed citizen multiple times. The sheriff is taking it upon himself to declare martial law, as indicated by his statement yesterday, where he essentially unilaterally suspended the 1st Amendment. We have multiple, clearly documented examples of violations of the Constitution going on.

Both the county and the city police chief’s careers are over, and they both seem completely oblivious to that.

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How serious of a dialogue can we really have when all of our political leaders claw and scratch to climb over each other in their slavish support of Law Enforcement?

I think this government cheese giveaway from the DHS and the military really got out of hand…it made already power-tripping police officers, who more and more seem to be the aggressive, shoot-first/ask-questions-later type, even more convinced of their natural infallibility.

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Ferguson IS a suburb, moron!

Ed. And the Mayor, James Knowles III is a Republican. http://heavy.com/news/2014/08/ferguson-mayor-james-knowles-michael-brown-shooting/

Waiting for an apology,

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Another incredibly important detail hinted at in that article…

“Working relationships between commanders and protest group leaders are increasingly seen as the best means for preventing bad outcomes in crowd situations.”

Currently, they are shifting out the commander on a rotating basis between the various police organizations involved. So not only can there be no working relationship (Where is the guy I was speaking with last night? “He ain’t here, I am in charge now”),but it allows them to play a game of 3 card monty with blame when something goes wrong.(Who the hell ordered that to be done? Oh, wasn’t me, must have been one of the other commanders, sorry)

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Yeah, that’s insanity. Single Point of Contact is critical in a situation like this.

I wonder why the Open Carry advocates aren’t cheering on the residents of Ferguson.

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The irony of those photos is deep.

Conservatives dream and talk about the 1950s example…but get all hot and heavy over the Today example. It speaks volumes about the disconnect going on in their brains.

And it also points out something that has been tested and proved. Beat cops are needed. Walking, not driving. So they become part of the community and not like some prison guards making sure the inmates stay in their cells.

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By and large the residents of Ferguson aren’t carrying guns, let alone openly. The photos coming out repeatedly show unarmed citizens with their hands in the air confronting a police force armed to the teeth and pointing loaded guns directly at them.

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