Discussion: Progressives Salivate Over Subpoena Power While Moderates Fret About Political Costs

The original article is from Politico. It’s pretty shameless but it does include this:

Some committee Democrats have received significant backing from the financial industry and have been more willing to support policies that would benefit the largest banks.

Seems important.

 

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The sheer number of 2018 votes for Democrats, gerrymandering notwithstanding, shows that America wants a major check on this president and republican spinelessness.

I want a fight and my money is on Auntie Maxine.

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Republicans will scream bloody murder about whatever Democrats do anyway so they might as well go deep.

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“Best keep our powder dry.”

Not.

So done with that centrist crap. It’s never a ‘good time’ to these people. I say go for it. Shine a light in every nook and corner. Sure it’s going to upset R’s. But they’re never going to vote ‘centrist’ anyway.

Strike while the iron is hot.

(I’ve used my daily limit on metaphors.)

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I’d love to see Trump and his kids and their spouses rotting in jail for the rest of their lives, but ensuring he does the minimum possible harm in the remainder of his time in office and gets soundly defeated in 2020 and drags a bunch of Rs down with him is priority 1. So enough to cripple him, but leave the coup de grace for Mueller and the NY AG.

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Progressives Salivate Over Subpoena Power While Moderates Fret About Political Costs

There we go again, the same thing happened during the Obama presidency, they were afraid of the political cost of investigating the war criminals, torturers and war profiteers, and now we have them all back either office or in the media messing things up.

There is political cost in witch hunts, but not when there are real crimes, on the contrary you earn a bunch of political capital by locking up crooks.

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Progressives Salivate Over Subpoena Power While Moderates Fret About Political Costs


Perhaps the ‘moderates’ might want to consider the political costs of overlooking the disappearance of the rule of law? Just a thought…

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"But they will bridle at investigations that seem overtly political.”

The measuring stick for that has been made large by the Republican side of the house. Personally I do want to see a little vengeance, but meaningful and just vengeance. I expect good men and women to sit down and look at the lay of the land and decide what is substantive. This leap to be a spoiler is suspicious to me.

“There, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), a favorite target of President Donald Trump, wants to investigate the Trump organization’s money trail and possible illicit foreign activity.”

I cannot see in context of what is known, why this might be considered not a critical need and instead, vengeful and trite.

“Oversight’s important, but I just think we’ve got a broader responsibility."

What the hell does that mean?

“The American people are sick and tired of politics,” he said. “What the Democrats have to do is have a robust policy agenda that concretely resonates with Main Street Americans, who care about their jobs and their wages and their retirements.”

Hmm…showing up at the next Trump rally?

That whole article comes off as a manure pile. And the “Moderates” as described within sound more like shills.

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God damn it, the Dems are so friggin’ afraid of the slightest criticism by the thugs across the aisle. The republicans are on a non-stop attack of everything Dems do; the GOP lies, cheats, steals, fabricates and obfuscates and they’re not the slightest bit worried about “political cost”. In fact, the shit the GOP does seems to pay off enormously for them (see Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh). The Dems need to pull off the gloves and beat the living shit out of the republicans every chance they get. The midterms prove that the nation wants a huge check on Trump’s crimes and unconstitutional attacks. Dems damn sure better deliver.

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This election was a clear mandate- wield power and exercise some goddamn oversight.

And please quit giving The Spineless the microphone.

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Trump is more than credibly accused of committing a long series of unheard-of, staggering crimes. To finally begin to investigate them is a long-delayed and we all hope not too late attempt to save this republic from severe decline and possible paralysis and dissolution. By all means do it well, but for God’s sake, we’re going to prove to the American people once and for all that this is an historically criminal, incompetent, and pernicious administration. Stop worrying about breaking the glass; there’s a fire, and breaking glass is the first step to getting extinguisher and fighting the SOB.

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“The American people will understand thoughtful, well-grounded
investigations,” Himes told Politico. “But they will bridle at
investigations that seem overtly political.”

It sounds like Rep. Himes is calling Maxine Waters low I.Q.

Butchers should cut meat and politicians should do political things. I didn’t vote for people to be Trump lackeys.

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The two parts of their dichotomy are policy and oversight.

“Policy” refers to Democratic policy-making. Pelosi has called this their “day job.”

“Oversight” nowadays refers to catching the Administration in the act of breaking the law.

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It’s a target rich environment. Shoot all the bastards.

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At least when historians look back at the closing years of the American empire, they will note that the Democrats held the world’s largest reserve of dry powder.

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Poorly phrased.

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“The American people will understand thoughtful, well-grounded investigations,” Himes told Politico. “But they will bridle at investigations that seem overtly political.”

Ever since President Obama, everything has been overtly political. NOW is not the time to chafe at that; it is what it is. There must be oversight regardless of what anyone feels that it is. Especially with this regime. The House must act aggressively in calling out the rot that’s infected this country. if it seems as though it’s “overtly political” so what?

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Just say every investigation is related to Benghazi and Hillary’s emails and the Dems will have 100% support from every conservative. It doesn’t matter if it’s related or not, they just have to say it is.

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Exactly. Pretending to go back to ‘regular business’ insults the voters who clearly want active investigations.

If you want to hand the House back to the republicans then by all means act servile and timid- and fail to do the job the American People clearly want done.

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