Discussion: Poll: Trump Approval Ratings Hit A Wall Thanks To Shutdown Over Wall

Look to the guy on your left. Look to the guy on your right. One of you still thinks Trump is awesome.

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I can’t take all this winning at 34% approval.

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Fortunately, most of those guys are concentrated in certain geographic areas, that with a litle planning can be strategically avoided.

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One of those guys shows up here occasionally—you know him, he’s named for a Firesign Theater character—but for some reason he hasn’t been around for four days. :joy:

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And those polls are probably not factoring all the wingnuts upset that Trump caved with absolutely nothing to show for the 35 day shutdown. Although Hannity and others think it’s all strategery.

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The laws of politics apply to Trump. He won a jump ball race in 2016 with some odd factors at play. That’s no different than 1968 or 1960. His election is probably closest to 1968 as foreign interference and a divided Dem electorate were both key factors. I’d say that Trump is closest to Carter in terms of an incumbent facing re-election. By 1980, a solid majority were looking for someone else. Carter didn’t get above 41% which was pretty close to his approval rating.

Trump is unpopular, fatally so. The gov’t shutdown has further hardened some pretty solid opposition to him. In a normal political environment there would be a GOP challenger, but most GOPers are quite timid and weak, and afraid of the rabid base.

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So when an unpopular president uses an unpopular strategy to try to advance an unpopular goal, and then rolls over like a dog and submits, thus hurting everyone and achieving nothing, is that bad for his popularity?

Many people are asking.

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It was never a Trump economy.

It was the Obama economy that took Trump two years to ruin.

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What’s interesting to me is that, if this poll is to be believed, 99 out of 100 Americans have an opinion on whether Trump is doing a good job or a bad one. That’s an extraordinarily high percentage.

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May I suggest a little bubble maintenance?

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That 34% is apparently beyond redemption.

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Trump’s economy?
Compare what Obama inherited from George W Bush - skyrocketing unemployment and the worst economy since the Great Depression
Compare what Trump inherited from Obama - steady 7 year drop in unemployment that continued pretty much on the same slope into the “Trump economy”.
Like all good things associated with Trump - they’re inherited.

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See he told you he’d get his wall, boom there it is!

Wall is not Wall; Wall is just excuse to shut down government.

Shutting down government is not aimed at shutting down government spending or people going to work; shutdown is simply the only way Trump has available - given his party can’t or won’t do much of anything to help him out and certainly nothing meaningful or memorable - to slow down pincer progress of the Uneasy Alliance of House Dems and Team Mueller in hunting down Trump, Trump’s spawn and Trump Org.

That’s obstruction that isn’t obstruction because the R party’s fear of the R base, the Dem party’s inefficacy in putzkying around for months in the year before Congress’ biannual Election Shutdown Year, and Trump’s, uh, LIBERAL employment of presidential pardon power, will paper it all over that you will not believe how quickly we as a country forget how all this ever happened.

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Don’t look now but the Dotard got a bounce…

His wall now has a name…and it’s Nancy.

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A wall ? It should hit the floor, if there is any justice in this world !

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“Any sinner can be saved,” said old Billy Sunday, “but stupid is forever.”

He failed to add that some sinners can only be saved after being “reasoned” with a 2X4.

But the mad dog cult qaeda is receiving a lot of “education” lately, so whom knoweth?

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And like all things inherited by Trump, are soon debased.

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