Discussion: Poll: Sanders Opens A Small National Lead As Democratic Divisions Harden

[exspectator]

There would have to be more granularity in that survey to find out who these voters are.

The article claims the poll is of Democrats. So I am just taking what was said in the article.

[brooklyndweller]

The Berniacs couldn’t care a bit who resides on the SCOTUS. It doesn’t concern them. Not at all. Just getting Dear Leader elected and then having him do nothing is what’s important to them.

[dickweed]

How accurate has any McClatchy-Marist poll been?

[seedeevee]

Bernie haters are starting to crack . . . .

[darcy]

My impression (memory) is they have always been consistent and respectable. No one has attacked them yet so I’m thinking they may be at least respectable.

[martinheldt]

The really important part of this poll is the rather remarkable 25% of BS supporters who say they won’t vote for HRC. Now, that’s something to ponder, and it’s something that needs to be addressed directly and publicly, I think. In a sense, it is the BS canstituency trying blackmail the Democratic Party. They ought not to be allowed to get away with it, without being challenged. I confess to not having a strategy for how to deal with it. But the strategy, so far, of coddling BS (and his half baked ideas) and his voters certainly hasn’t worked.

It is nothing to do with Bernie Sanders “blackmailing” anyone. In fact it has little to do with Bernie Sanders other than the contrast he provides between honest and dishonest.

A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to work with other Sanders supporters and I was surprised to find that my queasiness at the thought of voting for Hillary in the general was very widespread.

The driving factor in this queasiness was Hillary’s basic corruption. Corruption that is becoming so ingrained that she and many of her followers can’t even recognize it anymore.

Its a pervasive culture of corruption wherein politicians who vote the right ways get lots of campaign cash. Then, should these candidates leave office, they are again richly rewarded for their services in speaking fees and honorary positions. A good example is the 16.5 million dollar “Honorary chancellorship” given Bill Clinton by Laureate.

All that cash -present and future- keeps donor’s interests always in the minds of the politician. All that cash deafens the politicians to the voice of the many.

It doesn’t matter who would be running against Clinton. She’s one half of the most corrupt political partnership in living memory and that is judged on a sliding cash scale. She is part of the problem of our unjust system of government for the rich by the rich or the soon to be made rich. More and more people are coming to the conclusion that they can not under any circumstance vote for her.

To paraphrase the old Clinton campaign slogan: Its the corruption, stupid.

[watergate_mike1]

So why don’t we just lay out a plan for the GOP to up-end every Democrat in the race to the White House? Why don’t we just have GOP voters switch to DEM in the primaries and vote for Hillary, then switch either domicile & party, or simply party and proceed to vote for the GOP candidate of their choosing? THIS is the real “voter fraud” that is not mentioned when GOP state houses try to blackball ex-felons and folk of very limited financial means from exercising their voting rights. I think primaries should be like a silent auction – put a choice and a voter ID # on paper, then walk away. Absolutely no TV coverage of ANYTHING! And whether caucus or straight-ahead voting, proportional delegates awarded according to the vote. Decades of tinkering since FDR’s presidency has totally bollixed up the system. Now we are seeing “Frat Boy” politics trickling down to the masses and ain’t that some joke! BTW, ex-presidents should remain in their ivory tower and stop trying to “game the constitution” by running their wives as surrogate candidates.

[southgaguy]

The real score card is Clinton 1,273 and Sanders 1,027 won in state contests. On top of that you have the Superdelegates which bring Clinton to the 1,748. If Sanders was to take the majority of the awarded delegates in state contests, just as Obama did in '08, things will get interesting.

[kleah51]

Yeah, well that gets you past the convention. Good luck after that. She’s a crummy campaigner.

[darcy]

What’s next, Panama Papers Clinton 2 Billion bucks, BHO not taking her calls, Comey indictment on 4/18?

[mike_in_houston]

Does sort of fit with the new desperation narrative from the BS campaign – his campaign manager floated it last night on CNN: “Hillary shouldn’t destroy the Democratic party because of her vanity.”

[martinheldt]

a Bloomberg Politics national poll found that Sanders is the first choice of 49 percent of those who have voted or plan to vote in this year’s Democratic contests, while the former secretary of state is preferred by 48 percent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-24/democrats-evenly-split-over-clinton-sanders-in-bloomberg-poll-im63yb0w

On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders pulled to within one point of Clinton, who now leads Sanders 45% to 44%.
http://www.investors.com/politics/trump-support-fades-as-mistakes-grow-sanders-clinton-tied-ibdtipp-poll/

And now we have Sanders drubbing Hillary in Wisconsin where she was leading just a few weeks back. Despite all the press neglecting him, voters are dialing him in and liking what they see.

The tide is carrying him forward now just as Clinton is about to hit a big wall of pain resulting from the renewed interest in corruption wrought by the Panama Papers revelations.

[chelsea530]

And we can thank Sanders voters in Wisconsin for voting for that right wing crank to the Wis. Supreme Court…

What?!! I missed that little tidbit. How very interesting.

[exspectator]

Does sort of fit with the new desperation narrative from the BS campaign – his campaign manager floated it last night on CNN: “Hillary shouldn’t destroy the Democratic party because of her vanity.”

Frankly I don’t really care which gets the nomination. I will vote for either. Allowing a Republican to nominate the next 2+ Supreme Court Justices, however, would create irreparable damage to the country. I have no respect for those who back either candidate and claim they will sit out the election if the other is selected.

[emilianoelmexicano]

There you have it.

For the most part, Latinos and Blacks are on board with Clinton. If that were not the case the results up to now would be different.

So it’s going to be whites screwing us in two ways.

(a) By being TeaBagg Republican and putting us all in our place

(b) By being “sitting out voting for Hillary Clinton” Democrats (is it 30%?)–and putting us in our place

The beautiful part about this is

• that group (a) wins, because they want TeaBaggerism

• that group (b) wins because the repression which will come down will certainly affect people of colour more than them

[chelsea530]

In fact it has little to do with Bernie Sanders other than the contrast he provides between honest and dishonest.

Oh, good grief. You really are something, you know that? If you can still support him after that fiasco with the editorial board on Monday, then you really are a close-minded doofus.

There are none so blind as people who have been brainwashed by the right-wing media.

I don’t know why I even bother. Get help.

[calsteeler]

southgaguy: Looks as tho Hillary has a lock on the GOP nomination

[humpback]

Polling data is often wrong. Bernie may actually be losing nationwide by 20%.

[darcy]

Hopefully Hillary’s past transgressions will catch up with her - before the convention. You’re right though, at this point and time, she doesn’t get it. And the conundrum she creates is real and very problematic.

[humpback]

why is the marist poll singled out?

Because it is a fluke, outside the norm…wrong and inaccurate.