Discussion: Poll: Iowa Republicans Like Ben Carson's Comments On Hitler

nutty is just better. i thought they grew corn and beans in iowa. turns out they grow nuts.

I’ve used Photoshop for so long that I can’t help but see some indication that this was “helped” a little bit. Would love to see the original source for this as I’ve seen it several times over the years. If it’s stock, it’s really something.

So do the farmers.

That cavity within the skull is so irresistible! That’s why they like Carson the brain surgeon: it’s not just that he’s dumb, but also that he can perform lobotomies. Yummy.

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According to the survey of likely Iowa Republican caucusgoers, 81 percent approved of Carson’s comment that Obamacare is the “worst thing that’s happened in this nation since slavery;” 77 percent said they liked his statement that Hitler’s rise could have been stopped if German citizens had had guns; and 73 percent liked his concerns about a Muslim becoming president.

So, basically, two thirds of what they like are utter falsehoods and the other third is bigotry. Nice package.

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Don’t worry 
 you just channeled the scape-tern.

Yikes.

Well aware, and they are in fact also untethered to reality. I am also well versed in the almost laughable theory that the Soviets declaring war did it. Even the same article from the Ward Wilson (who has long tried to push this fringe theory) which I had already read, plays very fast and loose with its slight of hand
 for example, from that very article:

[quote=“Ward Wilson”]After Hiroshima was bombed on August 8, both options were still alive. It would still have been possible to ask Stalin to mediate.
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This attempt at counterfactuals is trying to argue that somehow the Soviets would have been able to mediate a surrender. And Hiroshima was bombed on August 6 (not the way that sentence tries to frame it (though it did get the date right earlier run the article) 
 so one atomic bomb already dropped.

[quote=“Ward Wilson”]Viewed from the Japanese perspective, the most important day in that second week of August wasn’t August 6 but August 9. That was the day that the Supreme Council met — for the first time in the war — to discuss unconditional surrender.
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Gee, after we dropped the first bomb. And despite the desperate attempts at dancing around about the timing of the August 9 meeting, they knew the very day Hiroshima was bombed that about a third of the population had been killed in the attack and that two thirds of the city had been destroyed. This information didn’t change over the next several days. So the outcome — the end result of the bombing — was clear from the beginning.

And the Soviets didn’t even declare war on Japan or move on Manchuria occurred 2 days after the Hiroshima bomb had been dropped.

While some people like Tsuyoshi Hasegawa argue (like Wilson) that the atomic bombings were not the principal reason for Japan’s capitulation but rather their leaders were impacted more by the swift and devastating Soviet victories on the mainland, those did not become apparent until more than a week after the declaration of war by the Soviets and after second bombing (which occurred merely hours after the Soviets officially declared war).

The Soviet Manchurian move did help convince the Japanese along with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and combined to break the Japanese political deadlock and force the Japanese leaders to accept the terms of surrender demanded by the allies. Japan was already debating unconditional surrender before any impact of the Soviet move in Manchuria occurred, and that debate began after Hiroshima had been leveled and Tokoyo did know about the level of devastation.

While some have tried to argue that the Nagasaki bombing might not have been necessary, the United States had no way of knowing at the time that after Hiroshima discussions began about surrounding before we dropped the second bomb.

Again, this way past Monday-morning theoretical quarterbacking simply doesn’t connect with the reality of the decision making, nor the political nor military realities on the ground at the time.

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Yes, that may be true, but they’re also standing on President Romney’s shoulders


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Oh good-grief.

Emperor Hirohito intervened and ordered the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War to accept the terms the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration for ending the war. After several more days of behind-the-scenes negotiations and a failed coup d’état, Emperor Hirohito gave a recorded radio address across the Empire on August 15.

And that address was after both bombs were dropped and the Soviet Manchurian invasion was still under way and would go on for another 5 days.

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Just like Ol’ Craig T. Nelson. Poor sonofagun was on food stamps and welfare,
‘and [did] anybody help me out? No!’ He’s a self-made man and he built it, damnit!

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But didn’t we provoke that war? Wasn’t it over steel manufacturers and merchants/corporate interests here in the US? I could be wrong.

They are Afrikaaner brothers from South Africa. I don’t remember further details.

Some like to claim this, but the Japanese had already invaded the Asian mainland 4 years prior to the attacks on Pearl Harbor had become part of the Axis powers a year before the attack, and that the European theater of World War II had already been raging for 3 years prior to Pearl Harbor. To say nothing of their having already set up the puppet state of Manchuko nearly a decade prior to Pearl Harbor. And Japan invaded French indochina in 1940. War in the Paicfic was already a reality on the ground and a larger war in that theatre was coming regardless of the late summer 1941 embargo on oil.

The photographer is Roger Ballen. These two are twin brothers, named Dresie and Casie. Surprisingly, it was taken in 1993.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/what-are-you-looking-at/2009/09/25/1253813608962.html

Glad you’re around to give some push back to the–ehm–creative history regarding WW II.

like a DIY outhouse?

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I can only thank you in your restraint in not posting this picture in your critique of Bloomington, Indiana :wink:

My wife and I were chatting on the speaker phone with our daughter, a trial lawyer. My daughter asked – rhetorically, I presume – how does a Republican “process” any of these GOP candidates? We agreed we’d be embarrassed to say we belonged to that political party. Trump, Carson – Jeebus!

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and after we dropped the two A bombs we introduced the Japanese to a government based on democratic principles and assisted them in re building resulting in an economic super power.
My father was sitting in the Pacific awaiting an invasion, my mother was at home working in a factory. Both I think were grateful the war ended the way it did, I know I am.