Discussion: Poll Finds Westerners Don't Want Federal Public Lands Turned Over To State Governments

I know I shouldn’t say this…but a flesh wound would get the message across that they’re not wanted there too. Just a sick fantasy of mine I guess. Their belief that they are entitled to that land just because they say so, is what pisses me off most.

In the first paragraph of thi article, the author talks of the Feds giving the land
back" to the states. In most cases, this land was never owned by the states but has always been federal land since it was bought or stolen from native Americans

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Apparently the states don’t want them either–they’d have to deal with all the conservation and environmental issues without the federal revenues, and if they then started in on charging fees for grazing (fees that the federal government currently returns to the states) they would face the very same group of militiamen who want “free stuff.”

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Exactly. Plutocrats have far less influence on the feds than they have in states. If the bought and paid for state legislatures have control of the lands, they will be raped for even greater profits for the elite that already have much more than they deserve or need. The rest of us would lose out, again.

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Which begs the question – Are these jackholes (the Bundys and the like) saying that they’d prefer to pay their state government some sort of grazing/usage fee and STILL be under the vast majority of the current EPA laws? Note to the Bundys: Your state is much more likely to not only actually collect those fees but raise them, as the cost of tending that land is much more when the states must do it as opposed to the feds. I believe they’re just peed-off because they must follow environmental laws and cannot use the land as hey fit … for free. Also, if it’s public land (state or fed), are they willing to share the space with others? – like campers, hikers, other companies coming in to farm, plant corn, erect warehouses, etc. These fuckers can’t think themselves out of a paper bag.

I’m kind of the same way.

I would love some of the adjacent land to become privatized adjacent to the worst offender’s properties and all of a sudden it’s fenced off, no trespassing, heavy equipment moving in and out disturbing their peace, etc.

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Don’t really have to work very hard to imagine it. Just cast your mind back to what was going on when Gail Norton was GWB’s Secretary of the Interior and make it just a bit more corrupt, squalid, negligent, and a bit less disingenuous and boom, you’re there.

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Doesn’t make any difference what the polls say. The States can’t vote on it. It takes an act of congress, which takes in all the states. In other words, it ain’t gonna happen.

A next door shooting range where servers bring free booze like in a casino would be perfect poetic justice. Any surviving militia members would move out within a week.

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