Discussion: Pentagon: 2 US Navy Boats Held By Iran Will Be 'Promptly' Returned

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We must have used war against them, because, clearly, diplomacy never works!

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Expect Trump to bellow that “IRANIANS HAVE CAPTURED AMERICAN SAILORS AND OBAMA WON"T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!”
Fox News is already preparing a 24-hour rant-fest about it.

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“Sailors,” not “troops.”

But clearly, merely getting back the boats and the sailors won’t be enough. We must blow someone to itty bitty bits to show we mean business.

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the hysteria level of the cable presenters has been jacked to off the charts… breathless, oogabooga scary words, archived video of past iranian naval exercises… and nutjob senator tom cotton as the the national security analyst who has just described these sailors as ‘hostages’; that gives wolf the lead in to the 1979 embassy seizure…
and if these are such vulnerable little vessels (as babs starr noted) why in the fuck were they boating in iranian waters … ‘ran out of gas’ … really? these boats don’t have fuel gauges?
soooo many questions…

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This is why dialogue and diplomacy, even with our putative enemies, matter. Thank God that Tom Cotton wasn’t in charge of this.

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We should do something nice for them, now. Like a cultural exchange or a donation to an internal aid program.

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I am taken back to the early days of the last bush administration. China had forced down one of our spy planes prompting W to issue threats. The Chinese ignored him as one would a child and eventually gave everything back.

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iirc, disassembled and stripped of equipment…

“They said that some type of mechanical trouble with one of the boats caused them to run aground…”

Riiiight… Can you spell “plausible deniability”?

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Well, ya know, when it’s a slow news day and all they have is the SotU address to report - they’ll jump on any shaggy dog story to attract eyeballs.

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The right-wingers are already all over the forums posting nonsense about how weak Obama is, and if we hadn’t made a nuclear deal with Iran, this wouldn’t have happened.

I knew from the moment it happened that it was likely much ado about nothing, and that it would end well. The Iranians are not idiots.

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CNN keep talking about “hostile acts”. “Hostile acts” is arresting two U.S. naval vessel when they go into Iranian waters?!?!? We’d do that is a heartbeat if the Iranians put a patrol boat within 12 miles of the U.S.

Look, Leslie “Wolf” Blitzer: You want a real hostile act, you might talk instead about a U.S. guided missile cruiser shooting down a civilian Iranian Airbus commercial airplane, killing all aboard…

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Yes, we need to let Iran know that not only do we own all our coasts, but we own all of their coasts as well.

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… and forgetting that we shot down their civilian Airbus over their offshore waters a while back.


For those of you who don’t have TPM Prime…

Here’e what I just posted over there.

10 U.S. sailors in Iranian custody – The GOP Pricks Should Shut the Hell Up

5:56 PM ET, Tue January 12, 2016

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The issue quickly became a discussion topic on the 2016 campaign trail.

“This is the latest manifestation of the weakness of Barack Obama, that every bad actor … views Obama as a laughingstock,” said Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum demanded the sailors’ immediate return.

“WH says our sailors are being given courtesies? This is feckless. WH is endangering our troops. Demand their return NOW!” he tweeted.

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“This kind of openly hostile action is not surprising. It’s exactly what I and so many others predicted when President Obama was negotiating the nuclear deal with Iran – that it would embolden their aggression towards the United States and our allies in the region,” Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on “The Situation Room.”

Cotton also pointed to the timing of the seizure as coming right before Obama delivers the State of the Union address to Congress Tuesday night.

“It’s humiliating to Barack Obama and therefore the United States to have American sailors held hostage during his final State of the Union,” Cotton said.

~OGD~