Discussion: Pence On North Korea: 'It's Time For Them To Behave'

[nowarino]

NK must be really, really ashamed now that Daddy has told them to behave.

[irasdad]

Pence said that “the era of strategic patience is over”.

He continued, “The era of strategic incompetence, buffoonery, and global catastrophe has begun.”

[imkmu3]

And if you don’t behave, no dessert before bedtime!

[whiteboar]

Says the country with more ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons than anyone else on earth. We tend to conveniently forget that one of the articles of the NPT (Article VI), requires states with existing nuclear weapons to eliminate them

"“Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a treaty on general and complete disarmament.”

We seem to be a bit behind on that. I’m not a fan of nuclear proliferation, at all, but it’s pretty hypocritical to lecture and preach on it while we’re expanding and modernizing our nuclear arsenal.

[ghost]

Part of the tragic irony is, all those blue collar folks who voted for him because he promised jobs? Well, he’s going to have jobs for their sons and daughters, as soldiers at war.

[sickneffintired]

@mattinpa

They won’t do that, Mike. Maybe you know it and maybe you don’t. But you should, you’ve been getting the briefings. They’d sooner nuke Seoul and maybe Japan too. They’ve got enough conventional artillery on the border to do serious damage to the Seoul region no matter what we hit them with.

It’s like they have no concept, no clue, no understanding of history no awareness that it has been a delicate dancing act since he got the bomb.
He saw what happened to Saddam and knows fully well that if Saddam had had the bomb he would still be there.
It’s his bargaining chip

[sniffit]

"We’ve moved beyond failed dialogues of the past.”

Seems to me this is the same conversation Bush & Cheney had…with themselves.

But fear not, brave northeast Asians, Pence is also yammering about “peace through strength”. You know, because life is a fucking kung fu movie, and platitudes pretending to resolve diametrically opposed concepts such that they reinforce one another by simply smashing them together with an abused preposition and some juxtapositional magic-think are always true when they are delivered via bad English overdubbing of Asia-talk (or by a diminutive green alien with grammatical aphasia).

[brooklyndweller]

Nothing will happen without the explicit approval of China, Japan and S.K.

If Pence thinks he’s got some kind of carte blanche backing on American military force from any of those countries, he’s bonkers.

[outsidertrading618]

@ralph_vonholst

Beyond belief that a Vice-POTUS could say something this numbingly stupid and diplomatically inept.

Ralph, this time you’ve gone too far.
Two words:
Spiro Theodore Agnew

He would have been able to do it if Nixon had given him a chance. He probably did, but I haven’t got the heart to look.

Att:Joaquin Andujar, reportedly

[bluefalcon]

Boss, we’re running out of shiny objects.

Can we bomb anyone? Can we get anyone to bomb us??

[theghostofeustacetilley]

Kim fat fat fat or this gentleman?

Trump Referred to Several Different North Korean Leaders As ‘This Gentleman’

[sniffit]

@brooklyndweller

Nothing will happen without the explicit approval of China, Japan and S.K.

That’s why all Trump is doing is instigating the escalation, not instigating outright hostilities. The “pre-emptive” strike crap is just part of that. He’s egging Kim Jung Un into launching an attack, so that when it happens, he can turn around and say “see, told ya so” and then turn to China, Japan and SK…and the UN…and say “approval or not, we need to act.”

[inlabsitrust]

Is not a basic tenet of negotiation that you do not belittle or patronize your adversary even if he is crazy and a murderous thug who murders his own family members? Do you think Carter would have ever brokered peace with Egypt’s Anwar Sadat if he told Sadat to stop “misbehaving” or mocked Arafat for being a big (or little) “problem” truant. So much for the “art” of dealmaking.

[tao]

Apparently Trumpsky’s memory foam mattress is not working.

[ncsteve]

I really don’t know what’s more terrifying: watching these idiots substitute primate dominance displays with nukes for diplomacy or knowing that 48% of the voters elected them to do just that.

[captaincommonsense]

Apparently, Pence’s manly swagger has finally had an effect:

North Korea Offers Unconditional Surrender After Mike Pence Angrily Squints...

[inlabsitrust]

@irasdad

“The era of strategic incompetence, buffoonery, and global catastrophe has begun.”

The Age of Disenlightenment? … or is it The Age of Unenlightenment?

[boisdevache]

I’m sure a fiercely independent nation that was under another power’s control just seventy years ago will be receptive to holier-than-thou shaming from another hemisphere.

[sysprog]

Honest to God. WTF is wrong with these simplistic twelve year olds that are running our government? ‘Behave’? WTF? Nobody, least of all No. Korea, gives a sweet sht what you say Pence. Grow a pair, tell them EXACTLY what they have to do to deal with us and get out. Period.

[barbara]

Behave - What are they, 3 years old?