Discussion: Pence: It’d Be ‘Troubling To Millions’ If Campaign Surveilled For Political Reasons

It’s be troubling to millions if a campaign coordinated with foreign governments to steal a US election.

Oh, wait, that actually happened.

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Stole it right from my keyboard
I hate that fucker with the intensity of 1000 suns

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Trump, Pence, and the rest of them…nothing but FALSE NEGATIVES!

Totally false negatives…and yet Rod Rosenstein (A Republican) and Jeff Sessions (a Republican) allow this to impede the Russia investigation. No facts from pence, Trump…they are getting it all from made up BS on Fox News with Sean Hannity.

How about investigating Trump and Pence and Sean Hannity for intentionally lying to obstruct the investigation!

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At some point, Pence must answer for his lies about Flynn and the transition, of which he was head. His smug certitude won’t save him.

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Witness a False Christian who lies to our faces for political gain and to avoid being prosecuted himself.

How can such a self-righteous bigot live with the cognitive dissonance that must seethe within him?

Such a venal “Man of God”. Could Pence actually be the antichrist the Evangelicals are so earnestly awaiting?

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Mueller may put several people in jail. He may come close to ruining the lives of many he doesn’t through the taint he leaves on them by exposing their criminality. But he won’t bring down Trump. Regardless the crimes he details in his report that can be pinned on Trump the Senate will never convict him in an impeachment trial. Never. He walks, on all of it. Then he parlays it into another win in 2020, fundraising and energizing off his “persecution” the 50% +/- of the electorate that put him in office the first time.

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While we’re at it, it would also be very troubling if we learned that the Russian government has video of VP Pence in compromising situations with young boys and barnyard animals.

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Pence is cunning, though.

Plays the loyal number two in public. And his staffers don’t leak the way Trump’s do, so he can build his coalition largely undetected.

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Yes that dystopian possibility has crossed my mind. I want to hope that we’re better that this but sometimes it feels like a losing battle against the money, lies and propaganda.
I am beginning to see the end of Democracy . It’s been a scam and a shell for years with everyone ignoring the reality like they would a crazy uncle until he breaks out an AR15 at thanksgiving dinner

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Just getting the eyes open for the morning but…

  1. I think Pence stepped out of the stooge category. He sounds more like a collaborator.

  2. They think they have traction. Pence is trying to build the mythos with this is all political.

  3. Does this article on Clovis make any sense?

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It would also be troubling if Donald Trump released his tax records of the last 20 years. Mostly troubling to Trump that is.

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Well he does talk to Jesus.

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Yes. The article does make sense. I’ll translate.

“The meeting was very high level; it was like two faculty members sitting down in the faculty lounge talking about research,” Clovis said Monday on the “Simon Conway Show.” “There was no indication or no inclination that this was anything other than just wanting to offer up his help to the campaign if I needed it.”

We were just sitting there talking. He didn’t tell me he was an FBI informant. I didn’t have a clue.

Clovis contradicted his lawyer’s later statement to The Washington Post, which claimed he did not know of the source’s relationship with Page at the time and was “unsettled” upon learning about it.

I’m not only lying to you, I lied to my lawyer, too.

“The thing that’s unsettling to me,” Clovis explained, was the source’s apparent motivation “to establish an audit trail from the campaign or somebody associated with the campaign, back to those Clinton emails – whether or not they existed, we don’t know.”

I’m freaked out that someone was trying to document whether we were conspiring with foreign governments.

Clovis said the professor followed up with an email containing some of his research materials, but “to this day, I have not read a single one of them.”

I didn’t follow up with the informant, so it must mean I didn’t say anything bad to him.

“…but I will say this: That person had nothing to do with the campaign. They were not part of the campaign.”

The FBI informant wasn’t a Trumpster. That means he doesn’t know anything about what we were doing…unless I told him…or Carter Page told him…or George Pappadopoulos told him. But other than that, he has no idea fo what we were doing.

See? It all makes sense.

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‘Offered his full-throated support.’ Or, in other words, ‘I will bless the Lord at all times; his praise shall continually be in my mouth’ (Psalm 34)

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Personally, I don’t buy that. Not for a moment because my sanity is genuinely at stake.

But let’s say you’re right. If that were to happen, we would definitely see the breakup of what used to be “The United States of America.” While there’s still a part of this country that will support Rump to the end (whatever that entails), the remainder of the country and I guess I’m speaking about the Blue States just wouldn’t be able to tolerate another four years of this nightmare.

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I can hear the tsk-tsking of the little fascist from here.

Fuck off, Mike.

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He is saying he knows who the informant is? Again, I am still getting the fuzzies out for the morning, but what exactly told him this guy was an informant? In reading it over again, Clovis just seems to be trying to create the idea this guy could have, might have been a plant just to keep this idea rolling in the public’s mind.

“There was no indication or no inclination that this was anything other than just wanting to offer up his help to the campaign if I needed it.”

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Uh, that’s not his “praise”, Mikey