Discussion for article #224481
Nancy is my House Representative and I have enormous respect and admiration for her. She remains optimistic that House Rs will understand the need to care for children in a desperate situation, but I’ve only ever seen House Rs express concerns for fetuses, not living breathing “God’s children” especially migrants whose lives are in peril if they were to stay in Central America.
If you go to the link to Business Insider don’t read the comments as I did out of curiosity. These are the knuckle draggers the House listens to.
9 Likes
Has Senor Cruz (R-TX) and his padre pappy been there yet to witness the “dazzling, sparkling array of God’s children worthy of respect” encamped along the Texas border?
Oh wait, they’re Cubanos, no los otros and hard-core protestant fundy Cristanos, no los otros “cristanos”!
Never mind.
2 Likes
The first thing we need to do is end the immigration double standard. Why should people crossing the southern U.S. border be treated any different than people immigrating from Europe, Asia, or the Middle East?
Furthermore, Pelosi’s comments don’t even make a modicum of sense. When she implores the public to give these children “respect,” is that simply code for “allow them to stay and pursue their dreams?”
This entire crisis is attributable more to President Obama than it is to Republicans.
Why?
Because when a president opts to only enforce some of our immigration laws while selectively NOT enforcing other laws that he doesn’t like, then cracks in the system begin to develop. And when cracks develop, certain people are going to fall into those cracks. In this case, it is illegal children.
I think most Americans agree that comprehensive immigration reform is desperately needed in this country, but until that happens, ALL the current laws must be enforced. With the administration opting to not deport illegal children (as should happen per the law), what we’re seeing are thousands of children, with no friends or family to turn to, literally get stuck. They have nowhere to go. They have nothing to do. They have no money. These are the unfortunate souls who are currently cooped up in holding pens in Arizona and Texas.
And this situation is President Obama’s fault. Selective enforcement will ALWAYS create unintended consequences and that is exactly what we are seeing right now.
1 Like
Well, bless your heart! You are the perfect Republican, as shown by the fact that you care more about scoring cheap political points against Obama than you do about the fate of thousands of impoverished, scared children. Do you get like a special badge for that?
4 Likes
I’m not a Republican in any way, shape, or form. I’m one of those coveted “independent voters.” And, actually, considering that a vast majority of campaign money from both parties is spent in the handful of battleground states vying for the votes of people like me…yes, I sort of DO have a badge…a badge given to me by the Dems and the GOP.
Regardless, your deflection is a very typical response for a partisan. Believe me, if you go to Republican websites, they respond much the same whenever you try to call them out for anything.
Bottom line: this is particular issue is Obama’s mess and it’s his sole responsibility to clean it up.
No. You don’t get a badge.
You get a single vote like everyone else.
You get a single opinion. Not a majestic ‘we’.
As in what ‘we’ think. Or how ‘we’ll’ vote.
Obama’s ‘mess’? That’s quite impersonal of you.
It’s thousands of human lives being discussed.
And in my singular view, the tack being taken to humanize the situation is the correct one.
Because we both know that if left to the devices of the ®s in Congress the solution will be institutionalized with a sterile dissonance.
So, yeah. Nancy Pelosi may sound a bit pie-in-the-sky rhetorically. But she’s versed in just what it may take to make sure the children at risk in this situation are treated as humanely as possible by those who would offer minimal resources with the greatest amount of prejudice.
jw1.
7 Likes
Nope, the best way to respect these “children” (most of whom are 15+ with many gang tattoos) is to immediately give them a bottle of water, a sack lunch, and send them back to Mexico. Any coddling of these leeches will result in many, many, many more.
This is absolutely correct. They got here. Give them a sack lunch, a bottle of water, and a bus ticket to Mexico City.
How ridiculous. These “children” who are mostly gang members in their teens are here to get the “permiso” to stay permanently. We need to end the crisis by revoking, immediately, all “permisos”. No permiso, Senor Illegal!!
(Dallas Morning News 6/20)
From a letter by TX Gov Rick Perry to President Obama:
“There is no doubt that I have disagreed with you and your administration on many polices over the years,” Perry wrote. “This crisis, however, transcends any political differences we may have.” He added that “the situation along the border is deteriorating” and getting worse by the day.
~snip~
In his letter, Perry said, “Texas can’t sit idly by waiting for a resolution while our communities become overwhelmed by illegal immigrants and their need for the basic necessities of food, shelter and sanitation.”
~snip~
Perry also wants the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to inspect facilities housing immigrants, especially children, who entered the U.S. illegally.
Apparently when slapped with reality-- snide tropes no longer suffice.
jw1
4 Likes
And bless your heart, you poor defective with a curdled soul.
3 Likes
These are refugees, not aspiring immigrants. Obama is–wrongly, in my opinion–enforcing immigration law more stringently than the idiot who preceded him.
You are a cretin.
STFU
2 Likes
Community meetings could begin by the end of the week to discuss the thousands of immigrant children who will soon be cared for in Dallas County.
On Saturday, at the Texas Democratic state convention, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins announced plans to open facilities that will house at least 2,000 of the 52,000 children who’ve entered the country illegally in recent months. (a County Judge is the head of county government)
North Texas Democrats expressed qualified support for Jenkins’ plan. “It’s a humanitarian crisis. And we need to do as a community what is morally right,” said State Sen. Royce West, who believes holding community meetings to develop public support is crucial.
Jenkins says plans to transfer some of the immigrant children to Dallas County began a little over a week ago. Local religious leaders returned from the Rio Grande Valley where they visited cramped holding centers with children eating in rooms with open toilets.
“They’re scared,” Jenkins said. “They’re not able to be inoculated in these facilities. They can’t get the sort of complete care they need. So we need to do what we can to help those children get over this traumatic event and provide them some compassionate care.”
1 Like
Mexico City? Most of these unaccompanied children are not from Mexico. They are
“… predominantly from Central American countries, such as Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.”
“Under U.S. immigration law, Mexican or Canadian children who enter
illegally and alone can be returned immediately. However, children from
elsewhere cannot be removed immediately and must first be taken into
U.S. custody.”
1 Like
So you’re a conservative Republican, in other words.
1 Like
These immigration stories always bring out the haters. Their lack of self-awareness is almost as astonishing as the sheer brutality of their opinions.
3 Likes
That’s pretty specific language (‘crisis’) that opens the door to EO’s to be issued to deal with it. High risk move going into the mid-term.
I am SO TOUCHED by your bleeding heart!! How many are you housing in your basement? Texas will be crawling with them, and they are not children - most are tattooed young men. I don’t want to pay - I want to dump them in the desert.
Mexico City gets them halfway home, and puts the onus on Mexico to become finally responsible. Mexico is a bunch of incompetent cretins as far as I can tell, and we should force them to do something responsible, finally. How can 50,000 youth get from Central Am to TX without Mexico being aware? Impossible! Put it on their pocketbook. They deport illegals - they decided to deport them to the US. We should do the same to them.
1 Like