Discussion: Pelosi Urges Ryan To Form Gun Violence Committee After Las Vegas Shooting

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Why bother?

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Ryan will sooner form a committee to look into Trumpā€™s taxes.

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ā€œCharged with the solemn duty to protect and defend the American people, we must respond to these tragedies with courage, unity and decisive action.ā€

GOP Policy Response:

  • Everyone gets healthcare? Kills people.
  • Everyone gets a gun? Saves lives.
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Since itā€™s just a gesture anyway, i would have prefered something like ā€œMake a commitment to bring meaningful Gun Safety Legislation to the Floor.ā€

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I question the wisdom of a Gun Violence Committee composed of GOP Congressmen.

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I think we can rely on the GOP roundly ignoring anything coming from the other side of the aisle, no matter how reasonable it may seem to be and no matter how much the American people want something, anything, to be done.

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Yep, Lord knows no Dems or women would be included in that group, would they?

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They would not. And watch out for the Mission Statement.

Call it the Confederate Heritage Committee, then every Republican will be lining up to join.

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Sad, but I agree. Pelosi and other Democratic leaders have to say something because the GOP never will. Gun legislation will never go anywhere in this country until Democrats have huge majorities in both Houses, the Presidency and at least one more liberal judge on the Supreme Court, and even then, without the media backing them Iā€™m still not sure anything will come to pass. Dems should never give up, but in my view itā€™s no longer something that can be done through legislation, I think weā€™re better off waiting until we control enough federal and state areas of government to make a Constitutional change.

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The Right is already spoiling for a Constitutional convention and they already have the numbers in place to make it happen and pass without obstruction.

The most divisive president in the modern era calling for ā€œunityā€. The psychiatric projection of this jackass is so predictable and depressing. Totally lacking any self awareness.

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Ryan will respond to Nancy by forming a committee of thoughts and prayers.

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ā€¦and warmest condolences.

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Paul Ryan will stick his fingers in his ears and scream; LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA Canā€™t hear you!

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Ryan: We are Pro-Life and Pro-Gun. Regulations will simply kill people, needlessly.

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The road to common sense gun control begins in the states. Itā€™s the long way around and itā€™s not at all efficient, but itā€™s really the only politically and legally viable path available.

The problem with national gun control legislation is that it will take an enormous investment of political capital to do with little return on investment. The bill will likely not be strong enough to make a real impact and weā€™ll lose seats all across middle America and lose the opportunity to solve problems like UHC, climate change, education, housing cost and wage inequality. We know what the other side will do with power: impose a fascist state.
In addition, I think national legislation will be faced with very strong and aggressive legal challenges similar to what we saw with the ACA, and the good guys will likely lose in court.

Based on court decisions, the path to gun control runs through the states. Many state gun control initiatives have withstood scrutiny in the Federal and state courts. Nevada would be a place where I would start. I think we need an approach similar to the anti-smoking campaigns.

  • local campaigns to ban assault weapons and to register all firearms w/enforcement mechanisms.
  • campaigns to have businesses, venues and local govā€™t to exclude anyone with firearms and extend the zone to several hundred yards from an establishment (sort of a clear shot rule). These rules will be challenged in court, but it gets to the same issue that smoking did: your right to smoke infringed my right to breathe clean air. Your right to own and carry guns infringes my right to be safe, and I canā€™t be safe if that gun has a clear shot at any place where I may be.
  • Follow-up with ā€˜guns suck ad campaignsā€™ (similar to the smoking isnā€™t cool ads).
  • Start using zoning laws to get guns, gun ranges, pawn shops etc from selling, trading, using guns anywhere near residential areas, public areas, or schools.
  • Encourage cooperative agreements between states to restrict cross-border movement of guns. The Federal govā€™t (once we get power again) can help fund state compacts. One idea that has crossed my mind is for the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois to negotiate with Missouri, Indiana, Wisconsin and Iowa to help enforce Chicagoā€™s gun bans and restrict importation into Chicago, put up checkpoints, exchange information on gun registrants etc.
  • When the good guys get power again in the WH, we put an all out effort to study gun violence, run PSAs everywhere on the danger of guns, and shame campaigns against gun nuts.

With a sustained campaign we can flip the margins to make a gun nut stance politically unviable. But we need to take it out of the federal sphere and not make this a litmus test issue for Federal Dems.

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Sturm Ruger stock is up 5%. I doubt Paul Ryan wants to upset the NRA right now or for that matter, ever.

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