Discussion: Pelosi: ‘I Am Comfortable’ With Proposal For Dem Leadership Term Limits

I am comfortable with the proposal and it is my intention to abide by it whether it passes or not.

Good.

Now, assuming the Democrats keep their majority beyond 2022, let’s see who steps up to prove themselves.

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‘Hear, hear!!’
And, btw, very smoothly negotiated, Madame Speaker.

Long may you wave!

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It sounds to me like a coordinated message was released in an agreed-upon manner – something PP can’t do (example, Kelly). The skilled delivery takes away the “House Democrats are in revolt” headline. Rep. Pelosi won another round of the politics game.

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Representative Pelosi wins at this game, again.

Imagine Paul Ryan navigating his caucus like this, and try not to blow out your knee laughing.

EDIT: although in fairness to Speaker Ryan, he has to deal with Nazi-lovers like Steve King and shits-for-brains like Louie Gohmert, and Pelosi doesn’t have to face challenges quite like that.

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Yes, and I just love the delicate manner in which she smoothly glides those leather gloves off and beats the hell out of her detractors with them.

Eh, I dunno. Without the Paul Ryans of the world trying to placate people like King and Gohmert, he wouldn’t have ever faced such challenges. The establishment wing of the R Party spent decades playing footsie with Nazis in order to attract their voters. That was bound to come back and haunt them. And it did.

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That can definitely be laid at the feet of the Republican Party as a whole, but not really at the feet of Paul Ryan. Ryan was in middle school when Yertle took office in the Senate, and by no means was even McConnell the original sin here.

I don’t want this to come across as me respecting Paul Ryan! I do not respect Paul Ryan.

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Sure, he didn’t start the fire. No one currently serving in Congress did. Shoot, few people still alive did. But when it was his turn at bat he was standing there with a tanker full of gasoline.

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2022 Pelosi: That was then, this is now.

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Let’s just pray that the corporate-owned shitbags behind this proposal don’t render it moot by losing the House in 2020…

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Money buys power.

That is the Washington Way.

Dumbass shit.

You need the most effective people in leadership positions, shouldn’t matter how long they are there.

If they’re effective, keep them in. If not, toss them and get a new person.

Putting it into writing only gives the guarantee that you’ll end up with incompetent idiots down the road.

And yes, I understand Pelosi is doing this now because of her age and position, that it’s not likely she’ll even want to stay longer (if, as hopefully is, still healthy and in a position to do so), and the pushing of idiots in the breakaway caucus.

But this will have the same impact it had on the republicans-- ending up with idiots in charge because of arbitrary term limits.

For politicians, the voters are the term limiters.

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Good for you Madame Speaker, now the anti-Pelosi people can be quiet.

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Not a fan of term limits. They lead inevitably to bad outcomes.

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“He who goes with the wise will become wise, but he who befriends the fools will be broken.”

Proverbs 13:20

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First, I would like to complement next-Speaker Pelosi on making the Orange Turd in the Offal Office look like an abject fool. It filled me with joy to see that there is a very significant political counterweight smacking that ass in the forehead, and it is all the better that it is propelled by a wise and intelligent woman.

Second, I don’t care much for term limits and I never have. Frankly, I don’t think we should’ve passed the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution. While having new blood is good, this should be the voters’ choice and not the calendar’s. I would’ve loved it if Obama was still POTUS. However, this is the Constitution as amended, so I shall magnanimously abide. :relaxed:

Third, I suspect that Pelosi wants to navigate the country through this most trying time to a place of relative safety and stability. I also suspect that she’s thinking about an eventual retirement, too. She’s playing the long game, and she’ll help build up the next generation of Democratic leaders. Now I hope that we can divert the ship-of-state from the Mango Moron’s coming tariff-induced economic depression before it actually occurs.

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Good Job, Nancy, holding the caucus together. Nice to know some Dems want to continue the genocide in Yemen. 84,000 kids starved to death, so far in this American proxy war. Guess this wasn’t important enough to you.

But support from those five Democrats ― Jim Costa (Calif.), Al Lawson (Fla.), Collin Peterson (Minn.), Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.) and David Scott (Ga.) ― meant Ryan’s gambit succeeded. Democratic opponents of the Yemen policy felt let down and were scrambling to understand why they lost those members, a congressional aide told HuffPost. Party activists like Tommy Vietor, a former aide to President Barack Obama, are already rallying opposition to the five online. “Anyone want to primary some Democrats who voted to continue slaughtering civilians in Yemen?” Vietor wrote on Twitter. “Let’s discuss.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-democrats-paul-ryan-saudi-arabia-yemen_us_5c116c5ce4b002a46c13c62c

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I sincerely invite Ms Pelosi to make me “sick of winning.”

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Jesus Christ! it’s always something with you.

Diffuse a power struggle, but it didn’t eradicate hunger in the 3rd world, so it’s a failure.

Stall a hostile takeover of government, but it didn’t guarantee that every future election would be completely open and legitimate, so die in a fire you POS.

Can we please solve one problem at a time? Can we please prioritize our goals? Can we please entertain the notion that politics is the art of the possible rather than a unicorn hunt?

None of the shit you want is going to happen until society takes government back from the robber-barons who have seized it. Most of the shit you want is impossible to do in the very-short term, which means it can’t be done until we spend some time and energy rebuilding the bulwark between government and oligarchy.

Yes, we can pursue several goals at once, but we cannot pursue every goal simultaneously. And we are probably going to have to make some tradeoffs. I can’t say I’ve read every one of your comments, but I have never seen any evidence that you acknowledge any kind of practical constraints. Nobody can work miracles. If the only rubric for elected officials is “are they the messiah,” then (1) get used to disappointment, and (2) keep your assessments to yourself because they have zero worth.

The United States of America is right now in the throes of an existential crisis. Right this fucking minute. If addressing that crisis requires us to leave Yemen twisting in the wind, so be it. Let them fucking starve, or shoot each other, or whatever. I don’t expect a drowning man to perform open-heart surgery on my wife.

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TPR - America is supplying the Saudis with weapons and support that they are using to commit genocide, including 84,000 kids starved to death due to lack of food from blockades. Even the Senate just advanced a bill to stop U.S. support of the war!

This is an existential crisis.

And the Democratic caucus couldn’t hold together to support it?