Dems shouldn’t lift a finger to bail out the Rethugliklans after they hopelessly screw up the ACA.
Let them own it lock, stock and barrel. And then hope the ensuing disaster will finally drive a stake through their draconian hearts.
I say that about anything and everything the treasonous gang will foist upon this land.
Thank you My sentiments exactly .
Let those red states go HUH? WHAT?
Waddyamean my premiums double
Waddyamean you’re not renewing my policy
Elections have consequences
Elections where you elect people who are part of the 1% and surround themselves with other 1% ers have dire consequences .
They’re coming after your Social Security
They’re coming after your Medicare
They’re going to start a war
They’re going to cut taxes for the 1% and increase yours
They’re going to make sure your minimum wage stays below minimum
Don’t look so fucking surprised
What did you expect ?
I know with this election we’ve lost truth and facts in the fight but there has to be ways to keep their meaning alive. Dems have got to stop with attacking and start questioning each and every proposal as if they were the hourly wage, lower management voter. It’s got to be how does this help me and my family, and will this cost me more to get less, and where are the jobs- those saved, created and paying more than before.
Fortunately, as the article points out, although Dems are in the minority, they’re much more liberally aligned as opposed to '09. I don’t have much fear that the Rethugs can peel off THAT many Dems. Especially, the ones up for re-election in '18 realize that whatever replacement on offer would be vile. It’s a pretty easy PR sell and if they can’t run on it, I don’t know what they could run on.
In this case, good policy and good politics go hand in hand. The programs are there and they work. If the other side wants to destroy them, that’s entirely up to them, and it’s entirely on them. If the other side wants to keep them around but wants to tweak them (there are some obvious things that can be done to make Obamacare work more effectively), great. Let’s negotiate. Otherwise, forget it.
“All power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely.” - John Dalberg.
Those Democrats need to think about how horrible things will be in two years, not how uncertain they are now. Terrorism up, healthcare in tatters, economy shredded. Were you a part of that or did you fight to prevent it?
If you fought it, shouldn’t be a problem. If not, you can rot in a ditch on the side of the road.
I lived in Kansas during 6 of the Brownbackistan years and thought, “nobody could ever more obviously vote against their own economic self-interest by reelecting him.” As I read stories following this presidential election, it couldn’t be more obvious that I underestimated the depth of American stubbornness/stupidity. Sarah Kliff’s piece in Vox was especially relevant.
Democrats: No cooperation, no yes votes. No to everything. Make sure the GOP owns it all.
A nation bereft of critical thinking skills.
The dumbing down of the school system has exceeded beyond their wildest expectation .
We’re all “Fox and Friends” now
Compliant stupid sheep
Sad
Yes, but Obama and Ds will get the blame for all of this. You know it and I know it. The white US population has been indoctrinated and gaslit for 20 years by Fox News and the Fox GOP, and then Breitbart and Facebook came along. Democracy–the entrusting of state power to the people–depends upon the existence of a reasonably humane and knowledgeable population. A population dominated by misconceptions, false realities and racial animus is inconsistent with democracy. Somehow this realm of illusion and fears needs to be shattered. Usually a bloodbath is what it takes–see the former Yugoslavia, Lebanon, etc–before people come to their senses. Obviously this must be avoided at all costs.
So what do you do, when the apparatus of democracy has been hacked? Ds could keep trying to do the stuff they are now doing, which is obviously failing catastrophically, and console ourselves with the thought that at least the coasts and large cities are (for now) pleasant and just places to live? Or do you try something new?
Increasingly I think that, at this point, when liberalism feels like a national culture of futility and chitchat, some kind of big power move has to be contemplated. Fund and organize hundreds of thousands of liberal-leaning families to relocate to Texas and Florida and take the presidency out of the equation. Fund nonstop TV ads, even in nonelection years, to bring home the realities of GOP government. Suspend Congressional presence in areas like healthcare, where the GOP will get its way in any case and the D presence will make no difference except ensuring that Ds can be fixed them with the blame for the ensuing chaos. Let the GOP own their healthcare legislation 100%. These are the kinds of strategies that are now in play–strategies focused on power, not on increasingly futile debates based on facts and reasoning and realities. I’m not saying that now is the moment to go there, but at the very least there has to be some preliminary discussion of this stuff, and debate about it between progressive, correction, democracy-loving Americans.
I like that .
That is the most important
Counteract Faux derangement Syndrome
Disable that both sides bullshit equivalency.
One side is fucking you
the other is not
Dropping Obamacare should be a massive overreach for the republicans – dog catching bus in the worst possible way. That, of course, depends on the dems not completely failing with their messaging.
This is a great idea but who will fund it…sounds expensive, years of advertising on a level big enough to have a national effect. Would Soros and Buffet pony up for such a thing?
Despite the sturm und drang about Obamacare repeal, I made the decision to forgo coverage this year as the premium cost skyrocketed on me. I can’t afford to pay 20% of my take home pay on coverage and I don’t qualify for govt assistance. So there’s that…
Maybe if enough people lose it , It may cause the blue states to go single payer
That would make too much sense…how in the world are people going to get medical treatment without an insurance agent involved somehow?
On the good news side, instead of paying for health coverage, I’m going to pay for dental and get my teeth fixed this year…well, if I’m not in the streets fighting for food anyway. Hooray for me!
“Twenty-three Senate Democrats (plus two independents who caucus with Democrats) will be up for re-election in 2018 – 10 of them in states that voted for Trump this year.”
And that’s the whole ball of wax, right there.
If the GOP picks up six seats, they get a filibuster-proof majority, and then they can run the table with their agenda.
This is the game plan I envision:
Step one is to repeal the ACA via reconciliation, and delay implementation until after the midterms.
Step two is to get the 60th Senate seat.
Step three? Welcome to Kansas.
Haha. That’s the spirit!
Truly shitty that you have to make these compromises.