Discussion: Orrin Hatch Lays Down The Gauntlet: Obamacare Taxes Must Go Immediately

Sen. Hatch, how many years did you have to come up with an alternative plan?? Failure!!

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“My view is this: After spending seven years talking about the harm
being caused by these taxes, it’s difficult to switch gears now and
decide that they’re fine so long as they’re being used to pay for our
healthcare bill,”

First, show me anyone harmed by those taxes and then we’ll talk.

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and… oh yeah… it will be necessary to deed back all Federal people’s land to the state of Utah…

Fuck you Orin, you fucking fuck.

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There isn’t going to be a replacement for the ACA. It is getting scrapped. People are going to lose their insurance. It will all be Obama’s fault. Republicans will enjoy a cascade of victories in the 2018 midterms.

If most of the people suffering are the poor, minorities and disabled there will be no penalty for the GOP in doing this. Especially since a sufficient number of those poor, minority and disabled will either stay home or mindlessly trek to the polls and vote GOP regardless.
I can’t recall the columnist that remarked “Americans have just committed an act of vandalism by electing Trump” but it is so true. And when the people you’re throwing rocks at start throwing back, well, you just start heaving bigger rocks. So, we’ll just have more vandalism in 2018. Book it.

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Well, at the very least Orrin Hatch is consistent (even if you disagree with the policy) - and he’s calling out his Republican colleagues bluff:

“My view is this: After spending seven years talking about the harm being caused by these taxes, it’s difficult to switch gears now and decide that they’re fine so long as they’re being used to pay for our healthcare bill,” Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said Wednesday during an event at the Chamber of Commerce, according to the Hill. "All of the Obamacare taxes need to go as part of the repeal process.”

Shorter Hatch: “Where is the beef ?”

At the end of the day they want to erase Obama, who had the unmitigated gall to be elected by a majority (Electoral College and popular vote). That means disposing of the ACA. so we will go back to the system we had. Millions are about to lose coverage; and for those with coverage, lifetime caps, preventive care, women charged more, etc. are about to make a return to our broken healthcare system. Medicaid is about to become very stingy. The only question left is if they’ll voucherize Medicare.

Fun times ahead.

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He is a horrible, no good, very bad man. He hides behind his religion, touts his ‘friendships with the other side’, calls people idiots on the Senate floor while piously bemoaning the lack of decorum and blames others for HIS faults and actions. We’re done Orrin. Enjoy the power. You’re almost done.

Orrin Hatch wants to kill tens of thousands of american citizens. And impose higher taxes on the middle class (because those millions who lose their insurance are still going to get cared for in emergency rooms). Why does he hate america so much?

(In fact, I think that this is one of those fake positions – since he has no actual power on the tax side – that will make whatever disastrous plan the republicans finally adopt look like a “reasonable middle ground”.)

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GOP: Guys, I don’t get why this is so complicated? Let’s just pass a bill that give everyone better care, more choice, and lower costs than the ACA/Obamacare! Also, let’s do it without raising taxes at all! Seriously, what is so hard to understand about that!

Healthcare Experts:…

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Campaign in poetry, Govern in book-burning…

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Well, at least that answers one question decisively and definitively: the Republican “replace” option won’t be funded and it won’t work.

I mean, we kinda knew that anyway but if Hatch’s opinion holds sway, there is zero chance that the Republican alternative will be funded sufficiently to make a real difference.

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Republicans’ goal is to “repeal Obamacare” — and kill the taxes and mandate — without suffering any election consequences. Nothing else matters…not how many end up uninsured nor how many hospitals close. Replacement is simply one strategy among many, including deflecting blame and sabotage.

Do it. Kill the insurance industry. Kill rural hospitals. Kill all the hospitals in Red states. Do it.

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That’s what I say - get it over with already.

Republicans yearn for the days when doctors were a luxury for the rich and financial crises were far more severe. It gives them more power.

However, don’t expect all areas to be impacted equally. I suspect Republicans will be using the power of the purse to reward red districts and punish blue districts in time for the 2018 midterms.

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I get what you mean but with regard to the ACA, the red states that have governors who would not cooperate with the government are being penalized and have been all along. I can’t see how he is going to reward them with anything to do with health care or insurance. And tax cuts are only going to benefit a small portion of his base.

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You’re right there. “Tax Cuts” is merely a dog whistle to a national audience. In UT, the Mormons will take care of their own. Those who are vulnerable are democrats living in Salt Lake City and Moab, and they don’t vote for Hatch.

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Do it, decimate your baby boomer voter population, because that’s what’s going to get hit hardest. Have fun trying to replace that demographic

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