Exactly, and many of the very same people who visit the memorial regularly are in a state of cognitive dissonance over that. They remember what happened, but fail to process the rhetoric and ideology that led to it. The good people at the memorial do their best, but it’s more of an uphill battle than it should be.
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And you would think Oklahoma folk in particular would realize that.
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Believe me, that’s already happened. In fact before McVeigh was caught that seemed to be the prevailing wisdom. And afterwards, it was one of those conspiracy theories that hasn’t gone away.
What part of the state are you in? If you don’t mind my asking.
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That’s been long time coming!
I remember the days when OK had no liquor by the drink and one had to pay $25 to join a “private club” Last call came at 1:30AM and if you’d not finished that final Long Island Ice Tea they had go cups by the door for you. 
Men had to be 21 to buy 3.2 cowpiss but young ladies could buy it at 18.
Those were the days!
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My recollection was that it was first attributed to men wearing turbans or something.
My parents banked with the Federal Employees Credit Union there and lost several long time friends. It’s sad for me to see the land where I grew up become so burdened by fear of the other thanks to the Gaylord family.
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I think you need to add Christian to be totally accurate.
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I first learned of this story from a good friend who lives in Oklahoma and was protesting the waste of government money and insult to the Islamic community. There are some good folks there, even if they are outnumbered by the crazies.
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There was an attempt by a wingnut member of the local media to pin it on a recent Iraqi immigrant who had been freed from an Iraqi military prison less than a year before.
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Actually there are LOTS of damn good people in Oklahoma. Even many of those who lean right are great people but peer pressure and lack of actual life experience with different cultures holds them back.
But they’d still wave as they pass you on two lane highways and have you into their homes in an emergency.
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I think that this guy’s been drinking way too much pure-grain alcohol.
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I am sick to my stomach. THESE aholes are terrorists. They are not ‘patriots’ or ‘Americans’ or any other label they ascribe to.
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We let them exist at our peril.
This:point_up:t5:
Saying the state needs to be thrown out of the union, even as a joke, ignores that there still are good people there. Let’s not rush out with the blanket condemnation. This guy, and those who think/act like this, deserve our disgust. But yelling at the entire mob just drives them further into the safety of their “media bubble” and will make them that much harder to reach and win their hearts and minds in the future. Jared Sexton was tweeting last night about this, and I think he’s on the money with this.
“When they go low, we go high?”
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Maybe it’s just me but if I were going to establish an anti-American Muslim stronghold, I wouldn’t make the headquarters in Oklahoma.
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I wonder when the SPLC will designate UnderstandingtheThreat a hate group?
@sooner @yskov I remember those early “suspicions” well. A whole new generation of Islamophobes has had time to grow up in the last twenty-one years, and the low-information crowd hasn’t exactly been thirsting for enlightenment, hence, my somewhat tongue-in-cheek comment.
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This is where the trouble started. If Jonny Quest had just rejected Hadji back then… Oklahoma (and the U.S.A.) would be safe now.
Excerpted from Wikipedia… ““Hadji is a streetwise 11-year-old Kolkata orphan who becomes the adopted son of Dr. Benton Quest and also Jonny’s best friend.[17] Rarely depicted without his bejeweled turban and Nehru jacket, he is proficient in judo, which he learned from an American Marine. The seventh son of a seventh son, Hadji seems to possess mystical powers (including snake charming, levitation, magic, and hypnotism) which may or may not be attributed to parlor trickery. The Quests meet Hadji while Dr. Quest is lecturing at Calcutta University; he saves Dr. Quest’s life (by blocking a thrown knife intended for the doctor with a basket lid) and is subsequently adopted into the Quest family.[18] Though slightly more circumspect than Jonny, he can reliably be talked into participating in most any adventure by his adoptive brother. He is voiced by Danny Bravo.””
…" And some, I assume, are good people.”