Discussion: Okla. Lawmaker To Rewrite Bill That Would Have Eliminated AP US History

And yet, ironically, it was through my AP US History education and an unblinking eye toward the horrors of our past that I never felt more patriotic. Patriotism to me is ensuring that we learn from the mistakes of our past, and fight doggedly to live up to our founding creed.

Conservatives want to live in a fairy tale. Conservatives don’t want the truth to be taught because the systems of white supremacy and economic exploitation that have typified our history do not fit in with their Laissez-Faire-y tales or absolutist dogma.

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"Fisher lamented that the course emphasized “what is bad about America.”

I haven’t yet read the course outline. It must speak directly about the Reagan presidency.

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“It was very poorly worded and was incredibly ambiguous, and we didn’t realize that,…” In other words “we didn’t realize what happens in Oklahoma doesn’t stay in Oklahoma”

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Remember, this is the state that authorized privately-funded religious monuments on the grounds of the state capitol, then were shocked that satanists wanted a piece of that action, too.

They’re not big on thinking things through.

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Agree 100%. Learning about all the awful shit that’s happened in the past, and the degrees to which they’ve been rectified (or not) made me want to continue their fight. And not just b/c I’m black, and identifying with the Civil Rights movement - it applies to everything.

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After the College Board released the new course framework in October 2012, opposition to the new test grew among conservatives.

More accurately, the growing opposition was to something that didn’t much resemble the test.

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Yeh…

His bill got so much Attat’boy’ attention, he wants to eliminate science, math, arts, music to the bill.

Could liberals and progressives finally just come out with a full-throated endorsement of breathing oxygen so that all these knee-jerk contrarian RWNJs will seek to ban it and asphyxiate themselves?

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When school budgets are cut, Advance Placement classes are often the first thing to be put on the chopping block. Republicans have added to the problem by cutting AP classes for demagogic reasons.

The best argument against cutting AP classes is never clearly defined by the press; AP classes sharply reduce the cost of a college education.

Because the high school my children attended had a full array of AP courses available to them, both of them were able to matriculate into college as sophomores. That was two full years of tuition that we didn’t need to pay; a 25% savings.

If Republicans want to teach their children that the earth is flat and Jesus rode dinosaurs, that’s their business, but they are not allowed to steal a fact based and constructive education from the rest of our children that will cost us thousands of dollars down the road.

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The following video about the Germans burning books is what Republican’s like Fisher would love to see happen!
After the all the books are burned, loser’s like Fisher will be free to indoctrinate the kids in how they see thing’s! Don’t let them kid you, they want absolute control starting starting in the womb and then the mind!
Fisher and his kind are nothing but parasites!

I would have loved to be in the room when the Schools Superintendent explained to Rep. Fisher that he was going to have to answer to a ton of angry parents why their kids weren’t going to get any AP college credits.

Sadly, I suspect a lot of these guys were at best indifferent students and are just hostile to learning.

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Here’s some valuable information about State. Rep Dan FIsher, from a site very friendly to him:

http://www.bringingbacktheblackrobedregiment.com/dan-fisher.html

Explains a lot.

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The sad thing is this is just one example of the way pinhead polarizers are holding back any progress in moving this country’s educational system forward. America’s students are actually lackluster performers on international tests, and the results would be even worse if it weren’t for the affluent districts where they do get a good education pulling up the scores. Overall we’re sadly mediocre, nothing to be proud of at all, and the high-poverty districts are just terrible, and the RWNJs staunchly resist any national effort to raise standards (looking at you, Piyush) by yelling about socialism and local control and tyranny etc. Other advanced nations do a much better job of educating students across socioeconomic levels. It’s just one more problem we won’t solve until some of us grow up, but it’s a big one.

Instead of " fix the bill,"

why not just have a local large animal vet ‘fix’ state Rep. Dan Fisher

Can’t fix stupid…

The first thing that came as a shock to the successful proponents of the bill is that even they can’t understand their own bill. And assuming they fix that part – which, I’m not about to hold my breath they can even do that – they’re going to find it’s hard to squeeze that ‘thinking’ genie back into the lamp.

Where’s the genie?
‘You have to rub it’.
That is NOT the Oklie way. Here’s a state bill.
‘Fine, but it’s not out. You have to do the work’.
We lifted the 3 Wish Limit.
‘The legislature can’t regulate imaginary beings’.
Genie, here’s the first wish … you hear me, genie, or are we gonna have to send in a sheriff or state militia. Where are you? Can’t see … is it out?
‘Your bill didn’t work, because it can’t’
Okay, minor setback, toadily fixable, and we’re going fix it. But first we need to figure out what this bill says.
‘You wrote the bill.’
Then first we need an exploratory committee to fix this bill, but first we need a ruling from the Oklahoma Supreme Court on what it says, yet first we need to know what Real Happy History in fact was, so first we’ll send this AP’s Unhappy Wrong Muslim Commie Blah History to the state History Board to rewrite it.
‘There’s no state “History Board”. There’s a state education board. But that board isn’t authorized to think and it can’t write and it doesn’t actually know how to go about making Real Happy History.’
Fine, then first we’ll need a bill declaring that they can so make Real Happy History.
’ That’s like 5 firsts. You’ll exhaust the entire state budget spinning in circles like whirling dervishes.’
Whirling dervishes that’s Muslim, right? That’s the first thing we need to clarify – no Muslim anything in American history. especially Oklahoma history. That goes right to the heart of this bill.
’ A state bill can’t simply declare ‘No Muslims’ unless that’s true, and it can’t be true or otherwise the Sooners & Cowboys & Tulsa & Oral Roberts and all those college fuhbo and basketball teams wouldn’t be in the NCAA.
Then that’s the first thing we’ll fix …