Discussion: Ohio Secretary Of State Says Trump Can't Launch Third Party Run In Ohio

Not the first time I can remember the Ohio Sec of State interfering with democracy in a way that favors Republicans.

And, frankly, not worth the air he used to give his opinion. The term "good faith’ doesn’t preclude the situation that Trump is likely to find himself in: Getting close to, but not winning the nomination. It’s a vague term at best and can certainly be argued legally.

I’m off to get more butter for my popcorn.

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It is such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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Define unfair… He has not been marginalized in any way. If he pulls a Lieberman, he’s on his own.

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And if I’m Donald, I’m looking a top dollar firm right now

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Ohio Secretary Of State Says Trump Can’t Launch Third-Party Run

Is OHSoS Jon Husted ready for the humiliation of the YUUUGE Twittersh^tstorm heading straight for his office?

Just because this is your official capacity as an elected servant of the people?

You don’t get to tell Chump what he CAN. NOT. DO. EVAH.

You should go dig a foxhole Sec Husted.
This will not be your week.

jw1

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Does it really work that way? Remember, states do not get to set the rules for federal candidates 100%. I don’t know any precedent, but my thinking would be that any person who did not win a party nomination may very well still have the right to run on another party’s ticket or independently. I’m not sure a state would have the constitutional right to deny a person access to the ballot qualifications based upon prior party affiliation … however recent.

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Husted carries more water for the GOP than any other elected official in the USA.
He is just slime.

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…ad inifinitum.

I doubt that this would matter to him. Just sounds like sour grapes. As if Trump would run like that it guarantees a Dem wins. As the Tea Party would go with Trump.

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According to Husted’s spokesman, a candidate can only run as a third-party candidate in Ohio if they “disaffiliate” from another party in “good faith.”

What? Judging Trump’s faith…oh wait they are republicans, go ahead and judge away…

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Trump can run a write-in campaign in any state that tries this.

And an independent run in even 30 or 40 states would destroy the entire GOP ticket.

And he could arrange to be especially destructive in states with close SENATE races, thus inflicting maximum damage.

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There are states that make it impossible to run as a third party candidate by requiring third party candidates to submit their nomination papers before the primary election takes place and making these exclusive. The courts have upheld that approach as being legitimate in the past.

Ohio doesn’t seem to be one of those states. ‘Good faith’ is a laughably subjective criteria for an election qualification that Trump’s lawyers will have no problem getting dismissed.

Trump doesn’t need to be able to run in every state to destroy the GOP electoral chances in 2016. He only needs to run in Ohio, Florida and enough other states to give him a mathematical chance of winning. This statement makes it obvious he can run in Ohio.

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Seems like b.s. to me. Too early to judge whether a third party run would be in good faith or not.

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Lest we forget, Dems successfully fought Nader’s ballot access in multiple states in 2004. Don’t know why. Was the 2000 election unusual somehow?

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I wasn’t under the impression that a state can block anyone’s candidacy - seems like the Federal election laws speak to this somewhere. Even if they could, what’s to stop write ins?

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Same is basically true in Pennsylvania. If you lose your party’s primary, you cannot appear on the Fall ballot. OTOH, PA’s primary is in mid-May, so he could withdraw from the primary 30 days prior and save his eligibility for the Fall.

That said, to appear on the Fall ballot he would be required to collect a number of petition signatures equal to 5% of the votes cast in the previous election for the office.

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Really?

This is the Ohio laws to get in the ballot…

"In order to get on the ballot in Ohio, a candidate for state or federal office must meet a variety of complex, state-specific filing requirements and deadlines. These regulations, known as ballot access laws, determine whether a candidate or party will appear on an election ballot. These laws are set at the state level. A candidate must prepare to meet ballot access requirements well in advance of primaries, caucuses and the general election.
State lawmakers have developed ballot access procedures in an effort to prevent non-serious candidates from appearing on the ballot; meanwhile, critics contend that stringent ballot access requirements discourage candidate and voter participation in the electoral process.
There are three basic methods by which an individual may become a candidate for office in a state.

  1. An individual can seek the nomination of a state-recognized political party.
  2. An individual can run as an independent. Independent candidates often must petition in order to have their names printed on the general election ballot.
  3. An individual can run as a write-in candidate."
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Thanks for reminding us (me) of that. Though I was severely unhappy with the results of that election, even at that time I felt it was not right to keep another legitimate candidate off any state’s ballot–nor is it fair to attempt to do so.

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Haha…hell yeah…I like to use that imagery in my writing alot…probably because I was such a big fan of The Wheel of Time series.

Trump: Husted is a total lightweight. I’ve never even met the guy. I’m going to negotiate this so hard you wouldn’t even believe. This Hampstard…how do you say it?..Mustard, whatever, is going to pay me $5 million dollars or I won’t run as a Republican. And then I’m gonna screw him, just like I would my daughter if, you know, yadda yadda yadda.

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