Discussion: Obamacare Stabilization Talks Go Awry As GOPers Demand Benefits Rollbacks

Call the obdurate old fools out…you will need a zipcode in their districts available @sen.gov. Then you will be put through…healthcare tollfree…

1.888.897.9753

BLAST THE BASTA…JUST SAY NOT NO BUT HELL NO.

It also has no chance of ever coming up for a vote unless/until Democrats hold a a majority in both the house and senate… and even then will look like Republicans’ ACA repeal votes with us passing it over and over and the current Idiot In Chief vetoing it each time it gets to his desk.

It’s 98% of the party membership.

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Pipe dream of the year.

And it’s less possible than it was a year ago because of the way far-left “progressives” refused to vote for the Democratic candidate.

There will be no single-payer unless and until the Democrats retake control of Congress.

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Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN), the chair of the committee crafting the stabilization bill, mocked the concept of forcing all insurers to offer comprehensive health care plans.

This should surprise no one—Lamar is only interested in Lamar and that is never going to change.

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Does part of cruelty encompass unwilling to learn?

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Why is it that the first thing on the hit list is always a woman’s health care related to woman parts like abortion, contraception and now maternity care. WTH? Maternity care is not negotiable for a woman. Don’t the dimwit GOPers on this committee realize that they were born too and some woman had to give birth to them? That any human being that is born comes from a woman giving birth and that they need that cost covered?

They lack a fundamental understanding of how insurance works and how you pool the risks so that the cost is shared over a wide number of people including those that may not need some of the services covered so that costs don’t make the insurance unaffordable.

Medical insurance that doesn’t cover anything is useless.

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Slightly OT, but fabulous:

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So basically the GOP is OK with continuing the CSR payments as long as they can use the bill for it to repeal the rest of the ACA? Gotcha.

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Why don’t we create a giant risk pool for people over 55 and call it expanded medicare. Expanded medicare will give everybody basic protection. If the insurance companies want to sell cut back specialty polices to people they can but everybody over 55 gets essential protection.

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They HAD control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and yet it was Democrats who wouldn’t even let the Public Option be debated, let alone introduce a single payer bill and put it up for a vote. So there will be no single-payer until we, the people, insist on it and hold our elected officials accountable when they don’t deliver what a majority of Americans already want. It’s a good thing that the naysayers didn’t talk John Kennedy out of putting a man on the moon, because, if I recall correctly, Putting a Man on the Moon was the Pipe Dream of the Year for 1961. The good news is that we already have the technology to put every man, woman and child on a universal health plan in the year 2017, unlike the situation in 1961, when very little of the technology existed to put humans on another solar body and bring them back alive and healthy…

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Without a concession or a win they can point to, GOP aides and lawmakers have said, it would be hard to get their caucus on board with funding the cost-sharing reduction subsidies or taking other steps to prop up Obamacare’s marketplaces.

Problem is, GOPers have defined “a win” as taking health coverage away from Americans, so a “win” for the GOP is a loss for all the rest of us.

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Bullshit of the worst kind. That majority lasted a very short time, and the politics surrounding the issue didn’t allow it. Several people, including the execrable Joe Lieberman, maneuvered to keep the issue out of the debate.

Your lack of knowledge about how Congress operates, and how the pressures of politics affect such issues is truly jaw-dropping.

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You tell 'em Thunderclap.

Every single moderate Democrat is an assertive coward believing only to the art of surrender.

Those nasty hippies who want the future now just need to shut the fuck up and take what little the moderate Democrats are told their wall street funding sources are willing to give them. And they damn well better like it.

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Your ridiculous straw man shows once again that you have nothing of substance to offer here.

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Actually, at least three western European countries --Germany, the Netherlands, and Switzerland-- are not single payer. Neither is Japan. But I believe all are universal-coverage.

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‘Yeah yeah FK those women…they shouldn’t be having babies unless we FORCE them to…and then they should PAY for them…go back to work early and be part of the working poor. They don’t ‘deserve’ benefits!’ say all the dicks in Congress.

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Refrain. That’s not even an impulse they possess. They embrace cruelty. They stay up late at night conjuring new methods for inflicting cruelty. Cruelty is their piss, and it must be released on a regular basis or they feel ill and pained.

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Ugh What is wrong with these people that a rollback of healthcare coverage should be considered a “win”? puke

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Wow, that’s not what I remember at all. The fact that the ACA was passed with 60 votes may be the most surprising and impressive legislative accomplishment of the last 50 years. Certainly since the Johnson Administration. Democratic senators voted knowing full well that the trade-off for providing health coverage for millions of Americans would be some of them would likely lose the next election, which they did. To imagine we were in a position where single payer was even remotely possible is revisionist history to the extreme.

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