Bigger question is what happens when McCain leaves the Senate? Does the AZ gov exact a promise from the replacement not to proceed or do they just go back to the well?
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Exactly, and I think McConnell wanted to show PP that he did everything he could and that he just doesnât have the votes. If he really thought he could revive it from the dead, heâd have pulled the bill instead of suffering this humiliating defeat.
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Yes, I would LOVE to see a newspaper break down how much time (and our money) was spent on this. And then Dems can use it in their ads. Why do we think of things that they never do? Sigh.
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That reminds me, I need to toss the load of socks into the dryer when I get home.
Bye.
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Personally, Iâm not a big fan of Zombie shitâŚThereâs no doubt in my mind that these pukes wonât let go and will use it again and again as a cudgel, whenever and wherever they think it will get them votes, but that part of the country has shrunk, remarkably.
Senate leaders may also have an eye on the 2018 midterm elections, where Democrats have to play defense on far more seats than Republicans. If the GOP can win even one or two more seats, they may have the votes they need to muscle through some version of an Obamacare repeal bill.
I disagree with this. Dems do not have to be on defense over Obamacare (the ACA as many Republicans in the hinterlands would prefer it be called now that theyâve bought into its benefits). I think it is to the Dems advantage in many ways now and they can proudly and even defiantly against this one-party rule, playing to their strength in being the ones to protect the social safety net.
tRump lied to the American people when he said he wouldnât touch Medicaid, Medicare or Social Security. He lied. Their plan was thoroughly vetted by CBO, and against their will I might add, so that they couldnât even talk about their bills because they didnât even know what they were doing and how it would impact people. HHSâs Tom Price lied about Medicaid. They all lied. No need to be on defense when you have truth on your side.
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They canât let it go for 5 fucking minutes. They just come back to it over and over and over again. Iâm not optimistic for any bipartisan solutions as long as McConnell is majority leader.
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ZombieCare ZombieCare ZombieCare
Repeal and replace is dead for now and possibly until 2019 if then. Too much time and political capital was wasted on this effort with nothing to show for it.Ted Cruz is perhaps the most hated member of the Republican Senate and Mitch will not do his bidding -Mconnell is done.
There are other things they want and need to do The continuing resolution to fund the government expires at the end of September. If it is not renewed, the government shuts down -not a pretty picture. Then there is tax reform which may make repeal/replace look like a Sunday stroll.
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If you havenât flagged him/it, I will.
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Yeah, and Ted Cruz is also still fighting to ensure that marriage is between one man and one woman.
People in this town say the old ânothing is over until we decide it isâ no matter how badly theyâve lost. That doesnât mean it isnât actually over.
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I flagged it.
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Or for the more geekish of us around here:
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ditto
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Me too.
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Itâs a question of - as the slow-motion disaster unfolds - does coverage of people screaming how Obamacare caused it all dominate coverage? And will there be any mention in the news of the actions Republicans took and the resultant effects on healthcare?
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I agree that a bipartisan effort is necessary and the Senate might actually be able to put forward a workable bill. But I donât see it in this House. Ryan is ideologically opposed to it and as Speaker, he basically is the dictator. If he doesnât want a vote, it doesnât happen.
And even if he were inclined to allow a bipartisan bill to reach the floor, he wouldnât because the âFreedumâ Caucus would burn him in effigy (for starters) and throw him out. They have a de facto veto on bills in the House because they can force a leadership vote if the leader doesnât kowtow to their every whim. And they all drink the kool-aid, convinced itâs nectar from God. They donât understand itâs all just snake oil mixed with poison. So reasoning with them is out of the question.
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If McConnell tries to resurrect this bill, I guarantee it wonât go over well with his Republican colleagues.
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The underlying problem with US health care is the horrible diet of Americans; it makes people sick, fat and compliant. There is simply no sustainable health care model anyone can propose that doesnât have at its core a demand that Americans take personal responsibility for their health. This means eating more plant-based foods, less animal protein, less dairy, less sugar. The reason health care services are so expensive is because the demand is so high. Fit, healthy people donât need nearly as much health care service as fat, sedentary, smokers/drinkers. All the legislation in the world canât make people get healthy. Itâs up to each of us. So, put down your pizza, your pork ribs, your bratwurst, your double cheeseburger and help Make America Healthy Again.
Please watch the Netflix documentary WHAT THE HEALTH. Itâs fantastic.
Bingo. This has been and remains one of my biggest concerns since since Election Night last year. The GOP have been relentlessly vomiting up and pushing the Obamacare is causing chaos and harm for years. It is almost muscle memory (to use an analogy) for them at this point, and their base and much of the media heathers have it seared into their brains.
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O/T
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/891017665904484354
Source close to POTUS: Reince has been told heâs out.
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