Discussion for article #244574
LOL…trying to give Cruz the kiss of death with the Teatrolls…
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should Cass ever be nominated to a federal bench I’m sure Cruz will happily return the support by vigorously fighting for his…
filibuster.
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Trump isn’t the only one who can rile up the rubes…
“For technical reasons, no federal court is likely to rule against Cruz,” Sunstein wrote, pointing to issues in standing and that courts will likely see the issue as a “political question” that should be resolved in the political process.
You mean like who will be the next President of the United States by counting all the ballots and letting the natural process play itself out? No, no, no…Heavens to Betsy, the Supreme Court would never allow itself to get involved in anything that helped resolve a political matter regarding process. I’m pretty sure about that too… (/s)
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Though he sided with Cruz, Sunstein suggested that it was still an issue worth examination, quoting former Justice Scalia law clerk Michael Ramsey, who said, “It’s a mystery to me why anyone thinks it’s an easy question.”
While I take great pleasure - to an almost unreasonable extent - in watching Ted Cruz hang from his own self-erected Shakespearean petard, I do find myself wondering what the point of the natural born citizen clause is in a democracy.
I mean, seriously, if we democratically elected a President who wasn’t a natural born citizen, who would do anything about it? Sure, the losing candidate would complain, but would the Supreme Court really take a case to remove a democratically president?
The only way I can see there being any repercussions is if the losing party controls enough seats in both houses of congress to successfully impeach the president and declare him or her guilty – which, if they’re Republicans and control both houses, they’re gonna do anyway.
I guess what I’m saying, In response to the Ramsey quote above, is that it’s a mystery to me why anyone still thinks it’s a relevant question.
I am open to amending the Constitution to remove this. But really isn’t everyone just fucking with Cruz, because they hate his guts?
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Though he sided with Cruz, Sunstein suggested that it was still an issue worth examination, quoting former Justice Scalia law clerk Michael Ramsey, who said, “It’s a mystery to me why anyone thinks it’s an easy question.”
Cruz’s position is that “it’s settled law”.
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What’s the difference between the congress impeaching a president and the SCOTUS ruling that a person isn’t qualified based on the law? As long as we continue to have the peaceful transition of civilian governance I would expect the person to follow the law. After all Gore both got more votes and many argue won Florida and the electoral college to boot.
I cannot believe we are talking about the possibility of Cruz being democratically elected president. What has become of this world.
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Race faster, boys!! FASTER!!
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Well, I am, but some people honestly think Cruz is not qualified solely on the basis of being born in Canada - but there are just so many better reasons to oppose Cruz that I don’t know why they bother with the citizenship argument, aside from the pleasure of watching him deny it …
Actually, never mind, making Cruz suffer and squirm really is an excellent reason all by itself.
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Still…He is CONCERNED!
Am I the only one who would disagree with this statement: “For technical reasons, no federal court is likely to rule against Cruz,” Sunstein wrote, pointing to issues in standing and that courts will likely see the issue as a “political question” that should be resolved in the political process"?
I think when voters go to the polls to cast their vote, they should be able to assume the state has verified that all the constitutional qualifications to hold that office sought is met by each candidate whose name appears on the ballot.
Our founding document may contain many clauses that are archaic and irrelevant, but the “natural born citizenship” requirement is not one of them. If we abandon the natural born citizenship requirement now, it will be exploited by others who come after Sen Cruz who may not share his political convictions and expose us all to the greatest threat to the Republic the founders and framers knew well, feared most, and warned us all against: the loss of our freedoms and liberties not from an external military threat but from political subversion from within our own political system.
When you stop and realize virtually all executive power in this country is held by one person as the commander in chief of all of this nation’s armed forces and also take into account the vast increase in speed and destructive firepower modern weapons now have over their 18th Century counterparts, you begin to realize just how important this requirement has become in today’s turbulently shrinking world, and how important it is to apply the narrowest of definitions to the “natural born citizen” requirement rather than standing on the threshold of abandoning it altogether – forever.
There is no absolute, failsafe, clause or provision that will protect the Republic from just such a fate, but if we weaken this provision now that fate will come sooner rather than later and future generations of Americans will look back at this time and call out our names, giving us the blame.