Discussion: Obama Says He 'Absolutely' Wants To Go Off On Climate Deniers In Congress

Obama has just figured out that he has to apply Lincoln’s dictum. This is what we have been begging him to do in the last 6 years.

For 6 years he has been bargaining himself down before confronting the Republicans in secret and managing to get bargained down even more. He has even been betrayed. If he had only spent more time explaining what needs to get done to the public, and then getting the public to put on the pressure, he would have gotten much more done. Not only that, but the Republicans wouldn’t have had 6 unconstrained years to tell lies to the public.

When he was first running, I thought he understood how FDR told a Union leader, that the union leader was right about an issue and that the union leader should go out and force the President to do the right thing. It was very disappointing to find that he seemed to have forgotten that story as soon as he was inaugurated.

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Who did you support in 2012?

“Obama admitted that he sometimes wishes he could express his irritation
with congressional lawmakers who refuse to believe the science behind
climate change.”

Well, what exactly is stopping you?

Stand up for what you believe for Christ’s sake.

This is getting old.

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“Democrats don’t come out in off-year elections”.

Because the U.S. is a country in which the Congress wields a great deal of power, that practice has to be the most brain-dead that any educated segment of any modern nation can possess. Knowing better and still voluntarily ceding control of one’s public affairs to the hillbillies and bigots who can always be counted upon to come out and vote in America.

The United States has a sophisticated information system. A functioning educational system. A reasonable level of social and economic stability, compared to the rest of the world. A degree of freedom in voting that most people on earth would envy.

And “Democrats don’t come out in off-year elections”. WTF???

It’s not Obama who needs to have his head examined. It’s us.

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Your liking 2nd term Obama better is partly his jazzing up the base I think and partly him reckoning that he’s got limited time now and had better swing for the fences while he’s still there.

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“The good news is that the public may get out ahead of some of their politicians.”

How’s that going to help in an oligarchy? The Koch brothers will still get their pick.

Boehner?
The Press?
The Public?
The President?

FIFY

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I don’t think in Congress there are people who deny climate change, just what the science says it’s causing it.

BTW, funny that after 15 years of no new “Global warming” now the scientist have changed that meme to “Climate change”.

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If I could like this 100 million times I would. So well said. I am sorry people like Thaverly and Curious One don’t understand.

Your posts become more incoherent and ignorant every day.

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Your ignorance is getting even older

Obama is certainly changing the subject with his actions: http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2014/06/may-month-in-review-no-more-leading.html

Yeah, I will have to go along with the general idea of your message. I think his Presidency has been more of reacting to public sentiment, and not forming it.

An even more classic example of this is his stance on gay marriage. His “evolution” was based entirely upon what was happening on the “ground”. As public sentiment shifted on the issue, so did he.

And while I do applaud his recent executive actions on climate, I am not quite ready to declare Obama the environmental President.

“Democrats don’t come out in off-year elections”

Tell that to any number of republicans that lost their seats in 2006. That was the off year election in which Dems took the House and the Senate.

In fact this pearl of conventional wisdom about Dems not ever showing up in off year elections is almost entirely based on 2010. One year.

And in case anyone is paying attention, the polling is indicating that this year is not going to be the huge wave election that republicans predicted.

Four grammatical errors and counting, could you be less coherent? You need to go back outside to your sandbox and let the adults discuss this topic. Otherwise Paw Paw will have to get hims belt out again.

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You talking about Jim Inhofe R-Conoco-Phillips? The punch line of this article?

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/01/06/3125531/inhofe-winter-climate-change/

Seriously? That mental midget?

Let’s dial back the personal invective.

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Betting Neil DeGrasse-Tyson could explain the science at a level you’ll understand.

jw1

Gives it all away with the first three words. “I don’t think”.