There is no evidence that anything wrong was done, it was common practice to have a private mail address as Colin Powell and others did. The President says there was no security damage done. Where is the problem?
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There is absolutely nothing unethical about vouching for someoneâs character, which is what Obama did. People do it in courtrooms under oath every day.
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I selected this one phrase, but the whole comment is precise and accurate.
Credit where due, MrC
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When will the ignorant Sanders supporters ever figure out that a) some folks did actually go to jail for destroying our economy and b) you canât just arbitrarily put folks in jail for terrible acts that were perfectly legal?
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Itâs much more emotionally satisfying to keep yelling about it and getting the uninformed all worked up.
Itâs worked, but not well enough.
That q and a with the editorial board sure opened a lot of eyes.
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How ridiculous for the actually corrupt GOP to suggest, via their FOX mouthpiece, that the President would interfere. And of course there will be nothing at the end of the run for the FBI to get her on. What it will do, when it comes out sheâs clean, is strengthen her, like her Benghazi investigation performance.
By the way, how come no one congratulates our FBI these days for having prevented so many terror attacks hereâŚ? I heard on the officials of the FBI say that Obama demanded when he first took office that there be no screw ups, and theyâve done amazingly well. I think it wasnât till the FBI went over to chat with the Belgian securityapparatus that they were able to track down the Paris/Brussels attackers.
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" There is no there there with those fucking emails and you know it too."
So youâve read them all? Can you share what you found?
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Why donât you explain why HRC is at the center of the witch hunt, while previous SoS (Powell and Rice) arenât? They also used non-government email addresses for business.
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âWhy donât you explain why HRC is at the center of the witch hunt, while previous SoS (Powell and Rice) arenât? They also used non-government email addresses for businessâ
I donât disagree with your statement one bit. I do question how someone can claim to know the content of emails that havenât been made public.
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One thing Iâll say about this damn primary - it has given Hillary and all of her supporters a whole lot of rehearsal for what the general election will be like, because we are spending the primary defending her against the same slurs, smears and outright lies - theyâre just coming from the left right now instead of the right. But there is no damn difference and that is really a disgrace. Be that as it may, it is, as I said, excellent practice.
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Why would it be? Even the Justice Dept has said Hillary is not the target of the investigation, they are investigating a server. And again he did not comment on the investigation itself, he commented on her character. This is a pretty common thing, I see nothing unusual or unethical about it.
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Youâre far more transparent than you seem to think you are.
My read on you is that youâre far more interested in stirring up sensationalist dust wherever you see an opportunity, than you are in shedding light on a subject.
Am I wrong?
Edit: And unfortunately, people, to include myself, far too often bite.
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The issue more is than private email, itâs using her own private server, which she had complete control over. That was definitely stupid. No, not illegal, but real stupid. And even she admits it, and so has Obama. Itâs like she was asking for trouble, how could she not know using her own private server would not look good?
There seems to be extremist viewpoints on this. Either she did ânothing wrong whatsoeverâ, or âsheâs getting indictedâ. My viewpoint is that I have seen nothing illegal done, but I have seen something stupid and arrogant done.
The only other politician who used their own private server was Jeb Bush. And if he was the front runner, this would be in the media too because he had discussed National Guard Troop movements and such on it.
Remember a memo from State with Hillaryâs name on it went out recommending not to do any official business on private email (never mind a private server), a policy not in place when Rice and Powell were in office. Yet she did official business on private email. The âdo as I say, not as I doâ attitude is just arrogant and stupid. No, not illegal. Arrogant and stupid. And she has admitted the stupid part, and Obama has agreed with that assessment.
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âSo he in fact did not comment on the actual investigation.â
Yeah I see that now.
âHis statements were as usual 100% professional.â
Yes they were but how many times have you heard a prosecutor, a defense attorney or a politician say âitâs an ongoing investigation and I cannot commentâ, or words to that effect?
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Well not sure what this has to do with Bernie or Hillary but I am not in favor of torture and please name three significant folk that went to jail. If you think there was no criminal behavior by the banks and shadow banks that is your prerogative but take your name calling and go home.
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âYouâre far more transparent than you seem to think you are.â
Whoa, you and your loaded statements! Parsing that sentence as to possible explanations could take three paragraphs.
"Am I wrong?
100% wrong. I though leaving out the names might give the question itself a chance.
No attempt to sensationalize on this thread. Kind of vanilla really. And if you look around, have you ever seen so much TPM red meat on a Sunday?
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He did not comment on the investigation of the server, except to say there would be no intervention, and he only said that because he was asked.
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Here is a good read on the topic.
It was not as easy as you think to go after individual people. Settlements were a big priority, plus the banks have any army of lawyers. And in fact a lot of what they did was made to be legal in 1999.
A key excerpt is here:
Federal prosecutors have their own explanation for how only one Wall Street executive landed in jail in the wake of the financial crisis. The cases were complex to investigate and would have been infernally difficult to explain to juries, some told me. Much of the crisis and banker transgressions stemmed from recklessness, not criminality. They also suggest that deferred prosecutions â with their billions in settlements and additional oversights â can be stricter punishments than indictments.
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"Do you really think that heâd said âIâm not going to comment because thereâs an ongoing investigation,â
As I mentioned above, weâve all heard that line used thousands of times by prosecutors, defense attorneys and politicians. Iâm fine with the president defending her integrity and the FBIâs as well. I just found it odd considering itâs âongoing.â
Nixon calling Texas National Champions in '69 while awarding Penn State a plaque for most undefeated games is an entirely different matter.
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I accept all this but what where we disagree is that I believe your article only proves my point. I was simply pointing out that some people are above the law and are treated that way. In particular white collar criminals with lawyers and complex crimes. Their companies admit they defraud and pay a fine but the people walk. I donât know what the argument is as you have nicely made my point.