Discussion: NYT: Trump's Legal Team Still Largely Unsure What Mueller Knows

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#57

“some of the blame for the gap in knowledge falls on former Trump lawyer John Dowd, who reportedly never investigated Trump’s actual legal exposure and relied on the President’s denials of wrongdoing instead.”

Dowd actually believed Spanky??!!

I find that hard to believe as Dowd is the one Woodard quotes as saying that Spanky is a fucking liar unable to tell the truth.

Dowd had to have had a clue here.
But, in Dowd’s defense, Spanky is SOOOO bad that no American would initially expect how bad he, a POTUS, could actually be. It’s incomprehensible at first look.

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#58

Not knowing and worrying about what the government has against you as an investigative target means you are certainly trying to hide something, i.e. you’re guilty.

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#59

It’s unclear if Trump has even disclosed a full accounting to his lawyers of his time running the Trump Organization or some of the most contentious events of his presidency thus far, the Times reported.

It’s unclear? Really?!?

I’m as far removed from Chiselin’ Trump as anyone, but even I can guarantee, with absolute certainty, that he has not given a full accounting of anything.

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#60

Did the Mueller investigation end with Manafort’s flip? I haven’t seen or heard much out of Spanky or Rudy lately.

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#61

“After Dowd left the White House, his team spent at least 20 hours interviewing Trump about key events of his time as president.”

I wonder how many times DJT contradicted himself.

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#62

If they didn’t collude with Russia, and they didn’t lie, then they’d know exactly what Mueller knows. They fact that they don’t know says it all.

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#63

With a bullet in every chamber.

#64

Key word-allows. The attorneys and clients don’t have to share everything with everyone else. Sounds a little squirrelly but IANAL.

#65

Have you read Lincoln’s Bible on Twitter. Lays out all of Trump’s mob ties, this Russian ties too. Informative but scary as heck. You can read without joining Twitter.

#66

There is no doubt in my mind that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians. Too many contacts, too many Russian assets in the campaign. The only open question for me is did Trump personally collude. I am waiting on Mueller to confirm that.

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#67

Apparently they don’t have to share everything they know or have disclosed. Sounds like it’s the most efficient way to share discovery documents but not necessarily client information or strategy.

#68

Indeed. Thusly, why are we letting him appoint a Supreme Court justice?

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#69

@ronbyers

…did Trump personally collude.

Trump will never admit collusion and there might not be enough irrefutable evidence to convince a jury, but it won’t matter. Trump’s exposure is more clear-cut to more easily proven white-collar crimes involving money laundering, tax fraud, and the mundane mail fraud that can be proven with paper trails. There will be enough evidence to vote for impeachment but probably not 2/3 of the Senate but I am Trump will resign for the good the country, never.

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#70

Incompetence, chaos and magical thinking. That’s all there is in this presidency.

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#71

In the face of changing demographics, the old farts in the GOP want to lock in their old white-guy agenda for another 35 years.

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#72

Yeah, so wrong for millions of people.

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#73

Eh? Whyever not?

Just don’t bring more than you can afford to lose and conduct yourself scrupulously. I expect it’s a clean game.

#74

Here is what Mueller knows:

  1. history of money laundering thru real estate sales to foreigners
  2. tax evasion based on (1)
  3. offshore banking scams run thru Bank of Cyprus & Deutsche Bank
  4. money laundering thru casino operations
  5. personal inurement of Trump Foundation
  6. tax evasion based on (5)
  7. receipt of known stolen docs from HRC campaign
  8. knowledge of Russian contributions to DJT campaign thru cut-outs like Manafort and Flynn for sanction relief, etc.
  9. knowledge of Russian contributions to GOP as laundered thru NRA
  10. knowledge of foreign contributions to Inaugural Fund
  11. personal inurement from unspent Inaugural Funds
  12. obstruction of justice to cover up (1–11)

Thanks to the many witches who have been subpoenaed and found guilty to date. Some flippers; some not. Some historical (Packer & Weisselberg); some hysterical (Cohen, Flynn, Stormy). Some surprises still to come (Javanka, Jr., Eric).

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#75

Heh.

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#76

And fuckery. Lots of fuckery.

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