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But this story is two years old–and what has been said from the IRS seems to hold together. Lerner probably had her political leanings, which is why she took the 5th, but is seems less like a plot than simple confusion over how to track the vast increase in 501 c 4 applications in 2010 and afterwards. The real problem is less about the IRS’s actions, or non-actions, but more about the about the 501 c 4 provision of the IRS code which has been abused increasingly by political groups to avoid scrutiny of their operations…
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“This is why conservatives don’t trust national newspapers”
Um, conservatives don’t trust scientists or doctors or pretty much anybody who doesn’t confirm their worldview. Not that that will stop the NYT from bending over backwards to be “fair”.
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Yes, even after the Times sat on the domestic surveillance story in the Fall of 2004, and thereby helped George W. Bush win re-election, conservatives are still convinced that the Times is nothing more than an attack dog for the Democratic party.
Basically, conservatives are not interested in any evidence that runs counter to their pre-conceptions. Which is a polite way of saying that they’re dumb.
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Who gives a damn what Jethro Scarborough thinks. The Times, as they noted have given exactly the kind of coverage that this non-story deserves. It’s political and nothing more. What Scarborough and the rest of the sore losers on the right believe is nothing but sour grapes. They’re all still pissed that this President whupped their asses TWICE! Everything they say has to be viewed from that prospective. They’re now trying to paint Hillary as Mitt Rommney because they can see what’s coming. Another ass whuppin by another Dem!
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“I think with a different administration, one that was a Republican administration, this story would be a national obsession
says Halperin, instead of the pissant who-gives-a-flying phuck-nothing burger it is. Rs wants obsessions, they’re easy to exploit with enough air time, others want competence governance .
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Squeaky wheel gets the oil! This is why the GOP is always in “outrage” mode. They know that if they kick up enough dust, they will get attention. Pitiful.
After all this time, GOP is still beating this dead horse. I am sick of all of them. Mark Halperin is really turning into quite the GOP tool of late. He gladly carries the GOP water.
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Oh, come on. Surely you knew they were going to come up with something now that their Benghazi !!! screed has been put down. Since nobody has done anything noticeable lately, they had to go digging in the cast-offs to find something to breathe life into.
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Now, would this be the same Mark Halperin who got suspended from MSNBC back in 2011 for calling President Obama a “dick” on the self-same "Morning Joe Show? Evidently he found found false equivalency Jeebus and was welcomed back into the fold of the perennially self absorbed.
Detestable people!
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And for the record, I will give a shit about missing emails that predate the entire start of the alleged nontreversy of the IRS “scandal” some decade or two after the missing emails form the White House over the outing of CIA covert personal as revenge for debunking of the lies the Bush administration used to sell the invasion of Iraq… maybe.
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The story of the lost emails has been published and, though it was an IT mess up, it’s amazing to me that so few reference the details given here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/16/heres-how-the-irs-lost-emails-from-key-witness-lois-lerner/
The problem was caused by:
- Small quota for IRS user Exchange mailboxes (.5 GB)
- Recycled backup tapes every 6 months so backups (snapshot of what is in that (maximum of .5 GB) mailbox on the server at the time of backup.
These two practices forced archiving of email on users’ local hard drive. Lerner’s hard drive crashed so archived emails went poof.
In my organization VIPs archived.pst files are stored on a file server (which is backed up 2 times daily) so if somebody’s hard drive fails, we can still have their archived email. Note that MS doesn’t recommend storing .pst files that are connected to users Outlook, but it works just fine 99.9% of the time and guess what?
We don’t lose these folks archived email.
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Fuck Mark Halprin, W enabler and GOP apologist in chief acting as if his less shrill tone on media bookings is a voice of sanity.
He and Margret need to get a room.
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I don’t know why they’re so surprised. After BENGHAZI!!! and IRS and a new lawsuit now, the government shut down, the Bowe Bergdahl thing. It’s the boy who cried wolf syndrome now, everyone knows they are just out to get him so no one is really paying attention anymore. Daryll Issa could find pics of President Obama snorting coke off Hillary’s ass and people will just not believe it anymore …
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Of course the missing emails also predate the IRS even looking into “tea party” groups applying for non-profit status by a couple of weeks is also a kind of important detail that makes the caterwauling about the missing emails absurd. They properly belong in the same bin as birtherism stories of time-travel to plant fake birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers.
I honestly can’t fathom how anyone who presents themselves as serious journalists wastes even a millisecond contemplating this.
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“I think with a different administration, one that was a Republican administration, this story would be a national obsession and, instead, it’s getting coverage here and a few other places, but it really deserves a lot more questions,” Halperin said.
The Bush White House, not the IRS but the White House, “lost” emails on a number of occasions. The Valerie Plame scandal and Justice Dept scandal come to mind, with over 500,000 emails “missing” in the latter case.
Where was Halperin then?
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What they’re mad that the NYT won’t write about their allegations /accusations without any proof or evidences…
Issa and the republicans knew about Lerner hard drive crash last fall.
In IRS Commissioner John Koskinen’s opening statement said, “the commitee had been put on notice LAST FALL that some of Ms. Lerner’s emails had disappeared.” “So it should be clear that no one has been KEEPING THIS INFORMATION FROM THE CONGRESS,” he said… (Their video).
When are the media start holding their associates accountable for their lies, false evidences, or promoting the lies and false accusation which is borderline treason from politicians who hold the highest office in the land.
Question: Can the people sue Boehner, Issa for derelict of duty, betrayal of the their oath of office for personal gain, mishandling of taxpayers funds? (threat default on national debt $17B, phony shutdown $24B, $$M phony hearing, $$M bogus investigations, downgrade on national credit ratings AAA to AA yr. 2011)?
Now they offering bounty ($1M) for anyone to produce false evidences…
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The Times should do a story on Scarborough’s attempts to dismiss Bridgegate. JoeScarborough in December 2013 dismissed it as a partisan witchhunt saying “There’s no there there” and pined for President Christie saying “He smells different.” (real quote) A couple weeks later we learn about an email from Christie’s Deputy Chief of Staff, “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.”
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Here’s the thing.
The IRS HAS to investigate groups, in order to see if their claims of non-profit status is valid. Otherwise, every GOPer with a hat in his hand would be trying to get out of paying taxes, claiming 501©3.
It’s part of their fucking JOB. To, you know, make sure people dont’ cheat.
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“This is why conservatives don’t trust national newspapers,” the “Morning Joe” namesake said Tuesday."
Hey Joe, where was your outrage when Bush’s IRS audited NAACP over their opposition to the Iraq war?
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