Discussion: NYT: 'At Least Two' More Complaints Made About Matt Lauer

I’ve tried to say something like this in past posts, that those “genetically blessed”, i. e. good looking men don’t need to coerce women. Respect, valuing the opposite sex, consideration, etc., etc., all go into successfully courtship. No sex toys or hidden locking devices are ever necessary.

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IF he completes the act, yes.

I have to say that hidden locking devices are just fucking creepy to the Buffalo Bill max.

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I agree. But Organizations won’t fix squat until the problem costs them money. Right now they’re getting a few black eyes for sandbagging this shit but that’s not a motive for change. Money is. My wife still watches what was the Charlie Rose show. So those folks are fine. When she decides to stop watching it not for what Mr. Rose did but what the organization did then they change.

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Allegedly he did.

According to the Times, one complaint following Lauer’s firing Wednesday was related to him summoning a woman to his office in 2001 and having sex with her. The woman did not report the incident, she told the Times, because she felt ashamed.

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I’ve had offices that had “panic” buttons which would prevent people from entering an office, but never one that prevented a person from leaving.

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It’s going to depend on the facts then. I don’t see anything that says she said he raped her, just that he called her to the office to have sex.

She didn’t really tell us what happened in the office - she just went straight to I didn’t tell anybody. So I don’t know what this all means here besides extremely inappropriate behavior by the guy.

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Very well said.
That’s where the anger and unmasking needs to be focused next.

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The article has this wrong.

But Pelosi is used to defending men who are Democrats and were caught in compromising positions: These are former Reps. David Wu of Oregon, Eric Massa of New York and Anthony Weiner of New York, plus former San Diego mayor Bob Filner, and the late Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts.

Pelosi and others did put pressure on Weiner to resign.

Nancy Pelosi of California, spoke to Mr. Weiner on the phone Saturday morning and, notably, released her statement calling for his resignation after he told her of his plan to get treatment and to take the leave. Mr. Weiner received a similar phone call from Representative Steve Israel of New York, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, urging him to resign.

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We had the debate about the meaning of having sex years ago (“I did not have sex with that woman”) and it’s still an evasive phrasing of what have been rape.

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Well it may have been but I don’t know based on what there is to know right now.

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The way Smokin’ Joe was talking to the woman reminds me of the conversations we were told about between former married AL Governor Bentley and his inamorata. But it was not a “sexual relationship.”

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Are we supposed to blame Matt Lauer’s wife for this in the same manner that we were supposed to blame Bill Clinton’s wife for his misbehavior? I wonder if Matt Lauer’s accusers will make it their mission to ruin his wife’s career just as Bill Cinton’s accusers did for Mrs Clinton’s career?

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Lauer’s wife filed for divorce some years ago because he acted like a pig towards her. It was all fairly vague, but she knew he was unfaithful regularly and in the ways we’re hearing about now, that is, with people he power over. She subsequently withdrew the divorce papers.

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Have any other parents noticed that most boys tire of waving their dicks around in public by about age 6 or 7?

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Donald Trump?

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It is true that is very wrong, but I was thinking that there’s something wrong with him and his ilk at a slightly more fundamental level. They do the shit that they do thinking that they are entitled and that they are doing nothing wrong. There is something deeply wrong with that.

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I was harassed by a woman who would put reflective stuff, like mirrors, on her shoes to look up my shorts and joke about it. I had skinny legs, boxers, and cargo shorts. I played along but didn’t think it was funny…

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It’s not that simple, at least not in all cases. Some of these men aren’t terrible-looking and there are often people who are attracted to power and are willing to date or have sex with someone who in other circumstances they would find unattractive.

I think the real issue here in many of these cases is dominance and power. “I do it because I can, because I can get away with it, because I’m powerful enough that nobody will complain.” That’s why so many of these incidents are inherently aggressive.

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I read a tweet last night by a woman (I think she worked for a major media company) who noted she’d been in many “upper echelon” offices that had automatic door-closers activated by an underneath-the-desk button.

She noted that it was weird but it made sense, in a way.

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This is from 2013. She cried on air saying goodbye to the audience. If it were me, I’d still be hurting and probably not having a good day.

Many executives at the network never grasped how profoundly hurt and humiliated Curry remained — not just by her televised dismissal but by all the backstage machinations that led to that fateful morning. Curry felt that the boys’ club atmosphere behind the scenes at “Today” undermined her from the start, and she told friends that her final months were a form of professional torture. The growing indifference of Matt Lauer, her co-host, had hurt the most, but there was also just a general meanness on set.

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