Discussion for article #226906
Man, and here I thought Egypt throwing shade at us was embarrassing.
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For as much as we slag on North Korea, and as much as they deserve it, they kinda got a point here. A fun read about a comic artistâs experiences in North Korea is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_(comics)
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Russia and Iran are also trolling the US.
And deservedly so.
âWhile urging other countries to guarantee the freedom of speech and not to suppress antigovernment protests, the United States authorities at home are not too soft with those actively expressing discontent over persistent inequalities, actual discrimination and the situation of âsecond classâ citizens,â Mr. Dolgov added.
But donât worry - a few flowery speeches here and there, maybe a few bills that go nowhere - and weâll get right back to killinâ black âfolksâ.
Cause thatâs how the US of A rolls.
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You know what the worst part of Russia, China, Iran, Egypt, and North Koreaâs hypocrisy is? Theyâre absolutely right. Granted, the worst abuses tend to come from the local and state level and itâs been the federal government intervening, but still.
This same theme was some of the Soviet Unionâs most effective anti-American propaganda, âthis is what America says, and this is what America actually does.â
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Well it is the pot calling the kettle black, but the US has been pulling this crap for decades.
People in glass houses⌠as they say,
Hey, North Korea does a pretty good John McCain/Lindsey Graham impressionâŚ
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Fairly certain the people of North Korea arenât subject to discrimination and humiliation due to their race
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Nobody around for some pushback but me? Sigh. Well, itâs like cleaning up after a puppy but I have to say if the liberalsâoops, excuse me, progressivesâcould have gotten you purity-troll types to shut your stupid naive yaps over the years, the liberalâoops, excuse me, progressiveâagenda might have done a hell of a lot better in the last few decades. If you think thereâs some equivalence between the United States on the one hand and North Korea, Russia, and Iran etc. on the other, you should make an appointment for a checkup with a qualified ophthalmologist.
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Thatâs a fascinating theory.
That progressivism would have been more effective⌠if actual progressives would âshut your stupid naive yapsâ.
Typical authoritarian BS from the mushy middle.
Back in 2009, I was pleasantly surprised at Obamaâs take on âexceptionalismâ
I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism. Iâm enormously proud of my country and its role and history in the world.
I can stomach thatâŚbasically itâs a variation of this:
Of course, conservatives freaked out. But thatâs what they do.
The difference being, of course, that in America when the people perceive an injustice there are protests that last for days or weeks. In North Korea when the people perceive an injustice they shut up about it or they are imprisoned or executed. If the Ferguson protests werenât an example of free speech in action, Iâd like to know what is.
When Kim Jong Un stops randomly executing his uncles and ex-girlfriends, we may listen to something his tyrannical totalitarian state says. There is a difference between maintaining order during a protest and ruthlessly suppressing a protest. I saw more of the former in Ferguson than the latter, especially after the state government stepped in.,
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Well, not entirely.
I donât think corralling and arresting journalists is a particularly good example of âfree speech in actionâ
Of course North Korea is orders of magnitude worse than the US on any metric you can conceive. But it is irritating that we make ourselves, by our seeming inability to deal with racial injustice, vulnerable to this criticism at all, doncha think?
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Our resident purist did not take much time in replying I see, once again sawing away at whatâs left of her nose to spite her face.
America has itâs issues, corporatism, an out of control valuation of labor and wages, disenfranchised citizens and in general a dumbing down of the electorate. We do have a lot of work to be done in all matters relating to human rights but pronouncements from the likes of North KoreaâŚa human mono-culture if ever there was one are laughable.
Progressives and conservative each have purity adherents who continually row in the opposite direction, thatâs part of living in a country that allows all viewpoints to be expressed openly and without repercussions.
Does America often say one thing and do another? WellâŚdo Americans often say one thing and do another? Yet we expect our country to be a shining example of ethics??
The change starts with us as individual Americans, how we deal with others, whom we elect and whom we idolize.
As I sit here in Oregon and having watched just a single Koch sponsored ad against Senator Merkely and seeing the distortions and hypocrisy it envelopes I wonder how we can ever find our way back to be the country we profess to be.
Purity is a really nice ideal and I think people should have ideals. However the reality of todayâs America does not lend itself to ideal solutions. Itâs going to take many small steps if we are ever to re-calibrate our country for the better.
If this is just some BS from the mushy middle then itâs palatable in the absence of any workable solutions from the GOTP and the far left.
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Yup. This is just a global variation on deflecting criticism of Democrats by pointing out how much worse the Republicans are.
Yeah, of course the communist countries donât want anyone interfering with their business. They need to improve and so do we, not, we ignore them and they quit making false equivalences.
Human rights arenât a trend that comes and goes. They are an eternal commitment not subject to new politics or the whims of the few-the powerful.
The police need to look at this hard and realize where they are getting to. There is truth in this although itâs being used for some other purposes.
So that one thing, while reprehensible, negates every other protest by the residents of Ferguson? That one despicable thing should overshadow everything else?
See, thatâs the problem with purityâŚthe baby always gets bounced with the bath water.
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Nobody said that.
No, you only implied it. There this perception thing.
My comment stands.