The guy in the post photo should step away from the Moon Pies…
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Bright lights, big city!
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Entrepreneurial grifting by professional grifters
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The convention thing is a real thing in the constitution so i’m not clear on what detail they have wrong.
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The rules of this convention should be fascinating. How will they determine which amendments pass? Article V isn’t clear the process, as far as I can tell. Do they use a simple majority or duel at 20 paces or technical proficiency/artistic merit scoring?
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Yeah, these puffed-up bozos remind me of Civil War re-enactors, completely absorbed in their little-boy games and convinced of their self-importance - all while accomplishing nothing whatsoever.
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And if this convention of the states rewrites the 2nd Amendment to limit firearms ownership he will accept the result unquestioned? Right…
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And this is why Mr. Lach should learn to take the whopping thirty seconds to confirm statements, rather than just copying in lines from a website:
I can’t speak for Missouri or South Carolina, but New Mexico does not have “pending legislation” for a states’ convention. The reason for this is simple; New Mexico has no pending legislation of any kind.
The state of New Mexico has a part-time, non-salaried legislature that meets in an open sixty-day session in odd-numbered years, and a thirty-day limited session (in which only legislation germane to the governor’s call may be introduced) in even-numbered years; both sessions start in mid-January, and with the sole exception of the 2012 redistricting session, no special session (also subject to call) has been called during the Martinez administration. Any legislation not acted upon by the end of a given session is dead. Period. It had to be formally reintroduced the next year. Thus, the COS Project is flat-out lying when they say legislation in “pending” in New Mexico.
However, their lie is even more egregious than that; there is a small cadre of ALEC-affiliated legislators here who introduce this exact legislation every single year, and have been doing so for at least half-a-decade. To date, not only has not a single one made it out of committee, but not once has this bill even received a hearing. Every single one has been tabled, dismissed as not germane to the call, or simply ignored. The COS Project are just flat making it up, and Mr. Lach would have noticed that with exactly thirty seconds worth of work; I’d bet that confirming whether or not the other two states have “pending” legislation (something I admit that I personally have not looked into) would take just about as long.
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Um, I think you’re confusing neoConfederate political groups like the Sons of Confederate Veterans with reenactors; the two are completely different things. I’ve never met a reenactor who took themselves seriously, and they usually don’t welcome that sort of attitude in their circles.
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Yes, you’re right. Thanks for the correction.
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No problem; Civil War research is a hobby for me, and I find myself associating with a lot of reenactors, so I’ve developed something of a soft spot for them.
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This is a “real thing” in the sense that there is a Constitutional process. But the so-called organizers at the POS – excuse me, COS project seem not to realize just how high their hurdle is.
First, under Article V, 2/3 of the state legislatures – 34 – have to call for a convention. So far, they have 3, with 3 or 4 more considering it. Next, they have to have an actual convention under the full glare of national attention – in a country that has strong majority opposition to just about everything they stand for, and twice handily elected the very president whose “tyranny” this convention is supposedly meant to end.
Then, assuming they manage to actually hold a convention and agree on a new Tea Party constitution, it has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states – a full 38 states. There are far too many solidly blue states to get anywhere close to that bar.
It’s another wingnut fantasy fever-dream.
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I love this idea! There are a lot of stupid provisions in the Constitution, and it is about time to get rid of them. Such as equal representation in the Senate, or lifetime appointments for Justices. And drawing legislative boundaries via gerrymanders. And unlimited cash from rich people spent to buy elections.
The thing about a constitutional convention is that, once started, there is nothing preventing it from being a runaway convention – that is, one where the delegates go beyond their initial mandate. After all the 1787 Philadelphia convention went far beyond its initial mandate to “revise” the Articles of Confederation. So, bring it on!!!
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I think you are a little too hard on Mr. Lach, the article clearly states that “according to the COS project” “measures” are pending.
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All they need to do is slap on some tricorners and knee breeches and they can call it COSplay.
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What I find so amusing about this movement is their apparently sincere belief that they could convene a constitutional convention that only they are allowed to participate in.
I would personally welcome one the actually followed the constitution. It would surely eliminate the right to bear arms, it would protect voting rights and ban campaign spending by corporations, reinforce worker rights, further enshrine religious freedom, and probably take the right to draw legislative districts away from the parties. And that’s my unimaginative list. More likely it would be far more progressive than I expect.
I’d love watching them squirm, knowing that it was going to work out so badly. They’d be first in line demanding that the old system be kept.
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As I pointed out above, they’d need the cooperation of 34 states to call a convention, and 38 states would have to ratify whatever the convention produced. They seem to believe this is a backdoor method to simply have a few wingnuts impose their dreams on the country by some kind of constitutional trick. Let them try it, and see how far they get.
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They are sure that they could limit participation in the convention to themselves.
What can I say? This is just another log on the delusion fire.
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More and more, I favor secession. I’m not joking.
These people are never going to be happy here. They need a country of their own. We can carve out a large portion of the Deep South and give it to the wingnuts. We can pay anyone who wants to leave. Believe me, it will be a bargain.
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They’re easily side-tracked from governing, because they really, REALLY don’t want to govern. They want to rule.
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