Discussion: No Signs Yet That Flynn Is Backing Away From His Plea Deal

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I think when an attorney appears in court with lettering on their outfit it does bear a mention, even if only as an indicator of the judge’s (lack of) crankiness that day.

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…Which they could have mentioned without the ‘white jacket’ bit.

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I think that was just about the “Carpe Diem” embroidered on the lapel for its ridiculousness and not just fashion reporting about an attorney no one else would ever hire.

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Guess I can buy that. Too sensitive?

beer bus? i only had 2 years of latin in grade school and don’t remember that one

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O civile, si ergo. Fortibus es en ero.
O nobili, deus trux.
Vatis enum?
Causandux!

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The judge agreed with the DOJ lawyers that since they were not submitting those things for consideration in the sentencing referral he could not order those things released.

Now that only applies because Flynn copped a plea and the AG is Trump’s Roy Cohn.

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Not beer! Look again . . .

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Here’s a hint: You’ve got one of them backwards.

rebus!

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Yes, as in Rebus & Rutthead.

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Yeah, I think it is show boating and kind of bush league going to Federal Court like that. Perhaps indicative of a failure to read the place and the audience.

Would you want your criminal defense attorney to show up in Federal Court with “Save the Whales!” or “Free Byelorussia!” or whatever on her lapel?

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I think it’s too early to close the file on Manafort.

Trump still depends on cronies willing to lie and stonewall for him.

Whatever his motives, Manafort has been an ideal co-conspirator for Trump. He has not (yet) cracked, and is in fact taking his lumps.

Trump might pardon Manafort immediately after winning re-election, or in a standard midnight pardon scenario (in 2021 or 2025).

The possibility of being pardoned for violating the law to protect Trump is a huge element in the incentive structure and calculus that every crony confronts when they’re subpoenaed. Given Manafort’s loyalty, a pardon for him would be incalculably valuable in reinforcing the message that it’s safe for everyone to go all-in protecting Trump from the law. In fact, it might be the only pardon Trump ever has to actually issue; by the time the rest of the cronies realize he’s not going to pardon them, too, it’ll be too late: they’ll have perjured themselves and done irreparable damage to the anti-Trump cause. Not to mention that stiffing them would be classic Trump.

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Meh, any pardon for Manafort is too little, too late (unless there’s a massive planeload of cash headed to his favored destination, which would be another crime for us to uncover).

He’s already done more than a year in prison.

Pardons for Trump cronies lose a bit of their shine if the reward is only that their stint in prison is shortened.

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To steal from other posters, “Lock him up! Lock him up!”

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Nah…:wink:

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…the plan was still for Flynn to testify at an upcoming trial for one of his business associates.

A man (and I use the term in a strictly biological sense) willing to sell out his Country would have no problem selling out his former partners

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The General sold out his country.

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Manafort might only do 3 years of an 8-year sentence. Any person in prison will tell you that even one day makes a difference. Other cronies, without the connections or money, or who aren’t fortunate enough to get a judge whose sympathies border on outright criminality, could get much steeper sentences. If they think there’s a chance Trump will pardon them, they will be more likely to double down on obstruction.