Discussion: No Charges For Cops Who Fatally Shot Man Who Had Hands Raised At Traffic Stop

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i was afraid for my life.

from police training manual: first words out of your mouth after shooting un-armed suspects.

get out of jail free card. say it early and often.

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Wondering if grand juries need to be removed from the process when police officers are involved. Seems to me there is no trained rebuttal to the prosecutor’s arguments and presentations. Instead we rely on the grand jury members to be quasi-lawyers…

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7 fucking shots at a guy with his hands in the air! I know I’m not a gun guy, and don’t even play one on TV, but god damn that just seems ridiculous to unload a gun on someone that’s got his hands in the air…and you got an armed partner with you. That’s just total fucking bullshit.

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“perceived that he and his partner were in imminent danger”

There needs to be more than uttering “I felt my life was threatened” to allow a cop to kill someone that is in a non-threatening position. Death is not an acceptable punishment for disobeying a cop’s order to not move, especially if his hands are in the air and he is apparently not advancing on the cop.

This is not acceptable. It is just not.

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Serial killers could have it pretty easy if they just discovered this one little trick. Become a cop and blow the shit out of anybody you want! Then just claim “my life was in danger” and walk away. Works every time. Bonus points if your victims are minorities - then you get Sunday talk show pundits and a sizable percentage of the ordinary population lining up to defend you. Extra bonus - turn it all into a cash cow with a “B-b-b-but I’m the real victim!” GoFundeMe page!

God bless legalized murder, and God bless America!

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We’ve created these monsters. Black people, with the help of some whites, are saying black live matter. So, we argue about whether it should be all lives matter instead. In the meantime, the cops just go on killing.

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Officer Braheme Days is a frightened little ninny and, like Barney Fife, should never be entrusted with a device that can kill.

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Republican bumper sticker

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“He had his hands up, I was so afraid…”

If these characters are so afraid of an unarmed guy at a traffic stop, not at a murder, maybe they shouldn’t be armed cops!

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First line in the police training manual - " I feared for my life " . Yeah , riiiiiiight .

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“She also reached a tentative settlement against the county for $340,000 for abuse Jerame Reid had earlier said he suffered in jail.”
Hmmm. The cops were afraid for their lives?
Maybe that is credible.

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Also from the manual, under “last words out of your mouth before shooting unarmed suspects”:
don’tmovegetoutofthecarputyourhandsupdropyourweapon.

Anything the suspect does will be in contradiction to your orders and provide justification for your subsequent “I was afraid for my life” statement.

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Current police procedure basically calls for you to empty your weapon once you’ve pulled the trigger.

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Even better is having you and your partner both yelling contradictory orders at the same time.

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The Second Amendment crowd should be up in arms about the notion that having a handgun in the car, one which the officers had already confiscated, makes the owner a deadly threat who should be gunned down with arms raised. Handguns are just tools, right? They can be brandished outside zoos because they’re safe and normal, right?

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“I feared for my life”
“They went after my gun”
“They resisted”

All dog whistles for why they felt justified murdering someone. All bullshit.

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And there are some of those (here) who just don;t “get” the Black Lives Movement"

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Why do DA’s go to the grand jury all the time instead of filing an information? These grand juries routinely declined to indict, even though it’s the lowest possible standard of ‘probable cause.’