Discussion: New GDP Report Doesn't Say Much About Obamacare's Real Impact

Blue Cross-Blue Shield is nonprofit. And yet no one seems to think it counts.

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Picture this: It’s 2024 and Democrats are again trying to hold the WH and the election is close. Former President Obama gives the keynote address at Democratic Convention and says, “I AM Obama, so I know a little something about Obamacare. When I was president, Republicans voted 50 some odd times to repeal Obamacare. 50 times! Now, they’re trying to tell you, they’re the ones to protect Obamacare? Well, take it from Obama. The only ones who’ll protect your Obamacare is President Castro and the Democrats in Congress. If you let Republicans take over, the first thing they’re gonna do is repeal it. Don’t give em the chance!”

Now picture this in the year 2048: Two fortysomething year old Sasha and Malia at the convention saying. “We saw what our dad went through, we saw the pain and struggles as he fought hard to make sure every American had access to quality, affordable healthcare. We grew up watching the Republicans vote to repeal Obamacare 50 times. 50 times! If we elect a Republican the first thing he’s going to do is try to repeal Obamacare. Take it from us, two Obamas, the only people who are going to protect your Obamacare are Democrats and a Democratic president.”

I get why people don’t want to call it Obamacare, because it was used as a perjorative and they don’t want to play into that, but they’re doing the party, the man, and the program a disservice by calling it the ACA. This is a horse Democrats could ride to victory for generations and generations to come. We’d be foolish not to capitalize on the Republicans remarkably idiotic error.

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Yep. They went to the same “Hillarycare” playbook they used in the early 90s to run healthcare reform into the ditch, and figured that it would work the same way this time. Only it passed. Now they are screwed.

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Girl, you know it’s true…
(OK. Maybe not the best reference for truthfulness, but it does roll off the tongue!)

jw1

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pretty thick legislators in South Dakota? It must be all that dust they breath in from plowing.

I hope you’re right. However, I see it remaining what it is today forever. You’ll never get a liberal majority for long enough in Congress to push us closer to single payer, which is what we really need.

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Republicans tend to get so wild-eyed and infuriated in their political battles that they’re unable to see the big picture or the long term effects of a strategy. It’s what McCain did in the 2008 election, it’s what Republicans did on the night of Obama’s first inauguration, and it’s exactly what happened with Obamacare. All they’ve succeeded in doing is making their base even more batshit and angry than they were before, so much so that “primary” is now a verb.

You’ll never get a liberal majority for long enough in Congress to push us closer to single payer, which is what we really need

Actually, there’s a real possibility they could get that majority in 2016. 36 Republicans are up for reelection and 9 are in winnable seats.

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Thanks for this.

Hopefully they will also be congratulating themselves for avoiding the worst effects of global warming.
No doubt both will be dealing with the “lesser” effects.
I hope it buries the denier party to the dustbin of history.

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GDP accounts for dollars spent, profit or non-profit makes no difference. So if spending on health care drops, that would make GDP drop. Spending includes money from individuals and from insurance companies, but the companies usually spend at a much lower rate than an individual would be charged.

I am pleased to give Obama the honor of having the ACA named for him! The GOP certainly meant it as a pejorative, but I think even Obama embraces it (but humbly still refers to it as the ACA).

The drop in GDP due to the decrease in healthcare costs is actually good for the economy.Less money spent on healthcare last quarter means more money spent on other things this quarter.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-06-25/good-news-on-health-care-spending-is-making-u-dot-s-dot-gdp-look-bad