Oh they were all over it last night on each of the Nightly news interviewing people who are not getting paid …Oh woe is us why wont they come to an agreement?
Painfully ignoring that
a) There was an agreement that was derailed by Coulter and Limbaugh
b) The “wall” is an unfulfilled pipe dream campaign promise with no basis in reality
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Projection
When Republicans resort to “both sides are the problem” that means they are losing.
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Both siderism is most toxic when Democrats engage in it. For example Max Rose, the new Staten Island congressman, regularly blames “politicians” in “Washington” for the shutdown. Doesn’t call out the Republicans out of a misplaced fear of alienating constituents. (In fact he’s alienating the NY grassroots, which is a terrible idea.)
He’s far from the only one–indeed one of the (few) great errors Obama made was to insist on a nonpartisan language (“Congress” “Washington” etc) when talking about Republican misdeeds. Republicans themselves have had no issue criticizing Democrats and “liberals”, and our unilateral rhetorical disarmament has been a major reason for the disproportionate electoral and brand failure of the Democratic party in the last thirty years. We keep governing well, they keep getting elected.
The good news is that the Republicans have been so obviously awful over the last two years that even Democrats have found the spine to stand up and stop cowering, with Pelosi at the forefront. And unlike Max Rose, many of the younger Blue Wave Dems are calling a Republican a Republican.
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Aww, Neil is starting to realize that there ain’t any lifeboats left on the S.S. Trumptanic. Poor Neil.
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Neil - you know people who
a. )recommended Bernie Madoff to people
And
b.) were pretty sure that it was a total scam - but still recommended Bernie Madoff … because it somehow benefited them.
Neil - when it comes to Trump - history will identify you as a no-integrity “b”
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Whatever disease Squeal Cavuto has I hope it eats him hollow in front of his family.
May Satan take his ulcerated soul.
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BothSiderism is, to this debate, a written note to Drumpf that we are now his subjects.
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No Neil, it’s only one party, and it’s not the Democrats.
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There was the Obama Swine flu emergency declaration in 2009. The issue was there were over 1000 deaths from the flu obviously an emergency while the border is quite secure. I shudder about Trumps response to a public health crisis. Go back to his tweets from the Ebola crisis, Charlie Pierce linked them the other day, they are frightening.
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Funny how “both-siderism” always essentially translates to “Dems, just capitulate to Republicans”.
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Actually, for once, Fox News is right about something. If Trump sets a precedent that you can declare an emergency and do whatever you want - then a Democratic President could declare guns a national emergency and round up all assault-type weapons.
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for two years it was One sided, for two years, and they didn’t accomplish a phucking thing, except add two trillion in debt!
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Neil should quit looking through his belly button, the Corporate Tax cut will add a Trillion dollars of Debt every year?
not as long as McConnell is alive.He only works for 1 side and it’s not the good one
ask Garland about that idea
That’s true, corn. All of the recent shutdowns were the result of the Congress trying to get the President to do something he was not going to do: in 1995-96, Gingrich wanted to impose budget restrictions that Clinton thought were too onerous, Gingrich caved; in 2013, Boehner wanted Obama to accept restrictions to Obamacare that Obama wouldn’t accept, the Repubs caved again (and saved in the 2014 mid-terms only by the hideous roll-out of Healthcare.gov); and in 2018, the Dems wanted Trump to accept DACA provisions that – while he said he would – he ultimately wouldn’t, the Dems caved after 3 days. Here, it’s Trump trying to impose on the Congress terms they simply won’t accept, so he’s closing the gov’t. Trump’s problem is the public agrees with the Dems. If they have the stomach to hang tight, he’ll have to cave, even if he declares an emergency to open the gov’t and start the wall.
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Conservatives are completely incapable of introspection. They fuck up literally everything they touch, yet they have no shame. They send thousands of American soldiers to their needless deaths in a wild goose chase looking for non-existent weapons in Iraq, they turn a record surplus into a record deficit then they let the economy collapse -almost to the point beyond repair, they nominate and then elect a national embarrassment to the oval office in 2000 and then quadruple down on that in spades in 2016 and yet some how the Democrats need to “grow up”? Mann and Ornstein spoke the truth in 2012 and it is even more true today:
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The old “Who Benefits?” question is the only one that matters. The reason conservatives keep doing what they do is because their horrific policies benefit Wall Street and the 1%; the only people who matter to conservatives. Conservatives have been outraged ever since FDR had the audacity to help the entire country out of the depression. Rich, greedy, cruel conservatives couldn’t give a rat’s rear about “the people” unless those “people” are rich, white, protestant, republican racists.
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You mean you don’t remember the time when Obama took away the Pentagon’s money to implement Obamacare, under the false pretense that people will die without medical coverage?
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No. I disagree. Conservative policies don’t benefit them -at least not many of them. Wall Streeters and many in the 1% are just conservatives who lack introspection / judgement. Markets do better under Democratic administrations, period. But in spite of this almost all Wall Streeters vote for Republicans. I’m a 1% myself, but at least I realize that the tax cuts I get under Republicans pale in comparison to the money I made during the bull markets of the Clinton and Obama years.
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