Discussion: N.C.'s Sweeping Anti-Gay Bill Goes Way Beyond Targeting LGBTs

Really got to take issue with you there. There’s no shortage of it, certainly. But I’ve been to other states, like, say Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, just for example, enough to know that North Carolina’s bigotry isn’t even in the same league. Same flavor of bigotry as the Deep South, (as opposed, to say, Midwestern or Southwestern bigotry), but an order of magnitude less intense.

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I’ll go into a men’s facility only if there’s a line at the women’s and I’ve never seen any of them that are cleaner. I also see men going into the women’s, but to think that the NC government is afraid there’d be peek a boo going on while peeing and that transgender women are potential rapists, which is at the heart of this abomination, is too twisted to talk about. Oh yeah, the special session to ram this bill through cost $42,000.00, and the state will face a business backlash as well, American Airlines, the NBA, etc.

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NBA, American Airlines, Apple and others.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article67970287.html

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Me too, A friend from New York City retired to NC because it was more affordable than where she lived, and since she’s been there, there’s been nothing but more and more turns to the right. Going to the statehouse to protest on Moral Mondays was one of the first things she did, and the cookies the governor brought out to appease the protesters didn’t win anyone over.

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Not a special session. But the trans/gay hate was just the handwaving. It’s the gutting employee rights parts that were the real purpose.

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It’s described as a “special session” in various reporting including Charlotte Observer, The Atlantic and NYT editorial which are what I looked at. “Regulation of employment” is the new gutting of employee rights.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article67724167.html

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I have a feeling this will be taken to court rather quickly and shredded there and then diced, mangled, ground to a pulp, and then thrown out. If not …well, people will take to the streets.

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So when a republican state rep shows up at a Starbucks for his morning joe what’s he gonna do when he is denied his coffee based on his politics? This law is wider than work place discrimination or sexual orientation as I understand it. Then again I might be wrong. But I don’t think so.
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The entire bill as written, passed and signed can be found here:
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2/Bills/House/HTML/H2v0.html

He’s going to call the owner of the starbucks franchise and get the barista fired. If he wanted to sue the starbucks he’d be out of luck, but people with money and power usually don’t have to sue to get what they want.

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Ah, but he still hasn’t got his latte. :wink:

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Yes and the Democratic party is run by DWS who is neglecting the big picture. She is corrupt, incompetent and needs to step aside.

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And one GOP State Sen asshat wants the city of Charlotte to pay for the special session!!! And take pay away from Dems who walked out.

" “Charlotte brought this all upon themselves,” knowing exactly what they were getting into, Apodaca said.

“The one-day special session convened at a cost of $42,000, according to the Associated Press, but Apodaca wondered if 18 senate Democrats who walked out on the Senate vote Wednesday deserved their per diem pay.”

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article68244107.html

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Over the years, I’ve concluded that, in general, non-voters are just poor, dumb bastards, semi-literate, don’t make even a half-hearted effort to stay informed, know no 20th C US history, buy into talk radio BS.
They would vote themselves out of SS, Medicare, Vets’ care and not realize what they’re doing. ,

Don’t know how else to say it.

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The only way for this law to be changed is the fact that corporations doing business in NC will have to leave the state and not allow their products to be sold or used within its boundaries. Bank of America should be the first to pack up and leave, sell all of their assets, including mortgages, credit cards ect. Every sporting team should find a new home. Punish these idiots where it really hurts, that way the rest of the South will be on notice for enacting laws like this.

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Okay, can someone please give me a sound reason why we allow a legislature of this thing called North Carolina to exist? Sure, any country bigger than Monaco needs different levels of local govt below the national level. But no way does it make any sense to allow state-level govts to monkey with basic human rights. The NC lege only still exists because of institutional inertia. It’s long time past to stop this particular train, inertia or not, and dismantle the whole insane system of allowing 51 different govts to persecute individual citizens. We can then rebuild any govt we need at that level later, after we come to a rational agreement on what it should do and not be allowed to do.

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Just saw a woman take her son into the mens room. I wonder what that would be about in NC.

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Once again we see a cadre of bigoted, unethical Southern conservative legislators who regard discrimination and intolerance as a righteous cause, demonstrating an inability to learn from the mistakes of the past.

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NC will probably respond to this outrage by reelecting McCrory, Burr, and awarding all its electoral votes to the GOP presidential nominee.

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Technically, it’s an “extra session.” The NC General Assembly has the lamentable power of calling itself into session whenever two thirds of each house send a request to the speaker and president pro tem, respectively. They exercise that power every year, thereby granting the beleaguered and beseiged people of the state no relief from their caprice. It’s bad enough when Democrats hold the place, but since Republicans took the place over, it’s gone from foolishness to madness.

This rushed legislation has all the earmarks of something ALEC lobbyists drew up for the NC legislators.

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Do the R’s hold 2/3 supermajorities in both houses? If so, I can see where the nonsense originates. But if they don’t hold 2/3 supermajorities why on earth does the minority go along with such idiocy?

Do you have the initiative available for the besieged citizenry? If so, it sound to me like it is time for Common Cause or some similar organization to gin up an amendment limiting that power.