Discussion: Mulvaney Keeps Trump's Door Open On Medicare Privatization: 'Let's Talk About It'

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Oh please, oh please, oh please shut it down. Nothing imaginable would beat those optics of Republican ineptitude.

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LOL.

They can’t even pass Obamacare repeal through a GOP House with Trump’s support, and they think fucking up Medicare is worth a shot?

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Here’s a real simple slogan to oppose this.
A voucher is not health care.

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This is what happens when you place an ideologue in a position that requires formulating and carrying out policies. Cares about meeting ideology, doesn’t give a damn about negative outcomes, because - as an ideologue there is faith that the ideology will provide magically good results.

Think Sam Brown Back.

Bring it On GOP - and prepare to do a whig jig as over the coming decade.

Also note this gem. He really doesn’t care about a shut down and is basically broadcasting that no damage is really done (because he is an ideologue who believes govt that isn’t defense spending related is irrelevant because… ideology.) Again - no recognition of how the Cruz cheered on shutdowns and threats of shutdowns didn’t go well for his party.

“Shut-down is never a desired end,” Mulvaney said, while playing down the consequences of a lapse in funding.

“I think the government, if you measure it in terms of the dollars
out the door, about 83% of the government stays open in a government
shut-down,” Mulvaney said. “Social Security checks go out, military
still exists. The FBI still chases bad guys. I think the consequences
have been blown out of proportion.”

Idiot.

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Sure, go ahead and privatize Medicare. It’s not like older people vote or anything…

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Social Security and Medicare would both become more efficient if we allowed private industry to siphon off a portion of the funds as profit.

Nothing could be more obvious, dontchaknow.

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This is the part where the WWC in the midwest should start paying attention because some of those communities are heavily reliant on Disability Insurance.

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Trying to hurt the poor, disabled, and elderly doesn’t make Mulvaney a “budget hawk.” Unless he also wants to reduce military spending, it just makes him an asshole.

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Goldman Sachs and all the Wall Street Insurance companies would love to kill off Medicare by taking it over…it would be the biggest boondoggle for Wall Street since the 1999 banking modernization act the the George Bush 2007 financial collapse and free money bail out designed by Hank Paulson (former Goldman President).

The problem with US healthcare is the Wall Street Insurance Companies have been put in charge…no other country in the world is putting for-profit Wall Street Insurance Companies and the giant banks in charge. They are greedy bastards ruled by the bottom line…and if you get sick before you die, you will lose everything to them!

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Privatization of Medicare and Social security is in my mind, simply a
process of pulling those dollars away from protected systems and putting
it back into the hands of business to do with as business pleases.
People distrust government, I distrust big business far, far more.

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We thought Sean Spicer was a gum-chewing, snarling bully. He’s not. A bumbling idiot in way over his head. Mulvaney, however, is the real-deal. He’d as soon cut your safety net as look at you. He and Sessions are the real faces of this administration.

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This. Real budget hawks are also opposed to tax cuts. (Not to mention opposed to government shutdowns, which end up costing billions extra after the damage is undone)

right-wing propagandists have debased our language so thoroughly it’s hard to even keep track.

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I say go for it! I’ll make the popcorn as we watch the final destruction of the GOP.

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So shut it down.

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I’d nix “voucher” and go with “coupon”, but yeah.

I would like nothing more than for them to go after Medicare and SS. Seriously. It stands zero chance of passing out of either house. The Freedumb Caucus won’t think it’s regressive enough and the moderates will know it’s political suicide. Were it to even make to the Senate, and it wouldn’t, not even Heitkamp and Mansion would support it nor would Collins and at least a half dozen other Republicans. So, do it and give Democrats something even bigger to run on.

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I hope the DNC has the 'effin brains to make some coherent commercials about what these halfwits are saying.

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“These are going to be big, beautiful coupons that you can use, just like cash! They will be so strong, so good that people will wonder why we didn’t do it sooner! They will be printed on fine, fine paper, with gilt edges and an American eagle embossed on each and every one! You’ll be so proud, and, frankly, grateful, that I’ve made this beautiful book of health coupons available to out beautiful, incredible senior population! It will be so strong!”

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It depends on why the shut down happens. If a budget is not passed than many employees go home. Necessary ones stay but I am sure they love working for nothing or near nothing for political reasons.

Why am I not surprised?

Edited to add: @pluckyinky

I would like nothing more than for them to go after Medicare and SS

I’d rather not see that. I’d rather they talk about it, like this, and get strongly slapped down.

But I would never assume they’re incapable of getting some debilitating measures passed if they ultimately get in gear and “go after” these programs. They don’t have to hit a home run and fully privatize to damage Medicare and Social Security – mucking around with the payroll tax as they’ve been suggesting is a case in point. There’s no room for complacent confidence here.

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