Funny how quickly Michael Cohen got that message. It seems to have broken his heart.
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I hope āoven and shutā is not a typo. I like it 
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Using and abusing pardons has been a common practice by crooked Republican Presidents to help their friends escape being held to the laws of the landā¦and helping prevent themselves from going to prison.
Nixon, Nixon, Nixonā¦including his buddy Roger Stone.
Reagan and Iran-contraā¦pardons used by Ronnie to save himself from going to jail for treason. Reagan conspired with the Iranians leading up to the electionā¦treason. Donāt forget Elliott Abrams who resigned in disgraceā¦Trump just appointed Elliott to a 6 figure project called Venezuela. The same Elliott Abrams rapped up in Iran contra and El Salvador. Crooks!
Then we have Cheney-Bushā¦they used several pardons to prevent their lies about WMDās from being prosecuted. Bush defrauded the US government and the people.
Now we have Trumpā¦worse than Nixon, Reagan, and Bush combined.
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Founding fathers George Mason and James Madison saw Trump coming.
And in an argument with Madison, Mason warned that a president could use the pardon power to stop an inquiry into possible crimes in his own administration. āHe may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself,ā Mason argued. āIf he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?ā
Impeachment, Madison responded, could impose the necessary check to a presidentās abuse of the pardon power. āIf the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person,ā Madison stated, āand there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him.ā
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From the way that Manafortās playing things, it seems like he viewed himself as Max Bialystock, with the Trump Campaign as his Springtime for Hitler with Konstantin Kilimnik as his Franz Liebkind and Trump as his Roger De Bris. Trump wasnāt supposed to win, but it was supposed to get Manafort in good with his creditors (the Russian oligarchs). That way, heās able to grease some palms, but no one would look too deeply at the goings on of a failed campaign.
Now that heās been caught, heās trying to play the part of Leo Bloom and claim heās not culpable for the nefarious goings on during and after the campaign. Of course, even while heās promising that heāll ānever do it again,ā heās busy putting on Prisoners of Love (i.e. continued collaboration with Kilimnik and lying about the extent of the collusion in front of the grand jury).
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Congress critters bringing up pardons no doubt made Whitaker extra testy in his hearingā¦
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And his arroganceā¦
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Itās hard to be arrogant when your heart is broken. hahahahaha Also when you realize youāre on your own.
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One goose, well cooked.
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May the profiteroles of justice be served!
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This is the crux of it.
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khyber900 I always look forward to your posts. They are educational in a field that I know nothing about and your observations on legal gymnastics are definitely entertaining. Please donāt stop posting, we need your legal insights for this sticky mess.
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Thank you.
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Admittedly, this is a catch-all comment, but if Trumpās brazen criminality isnāt enough to get a president impeached or at least prosecuted after his term, what will ever rise to that level? The bar has been set so low that anything goes (if itās a republican, of course).
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The closer they get to tRump the more each of these maggots lies. Flynn? Flipped, plead guilty, cooperated. Papadopoulos? Flipped, plead guilty, cooperated. Even Cohen; even though he didnāt flip on his New York underworld buddies, he flipped on tRump.
Manafort claimed he would flip and then didnāt. Weāll see about Stone.
Oh, yes, and weāll see about Don Jr,. Fredo, Bimbo and the Kush. I wonder how quickly theyāll flip.
Then there is one I really want to see: Melania. Any money on her changing her citizenship to Russian and declaring diplomatic immunity?
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Yep!
Can you say āwitness tamperingā?
I knew you could!
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The latter, if itās clear-cut. There is no attorney-client privilege when a client asks an attorney to participate in an ongoing or future crime or fraud. The question is whether the pardon would constitute a crime or a fraud.
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