Discussion: 'Morning Joe' Crew Hammers Wolff Over Haley Affair Rumor: 'It's Disgraceful'

Mika is just one more embarrassment at MSNBC – the wattage from her and her boy toy Joe S. could not light a mousehole. Her faux outrage at the mistreatment of a woman, is hypocritical to the max. Wolfe made no such accusation about Nickky Haley, but media speculation went wild. Then a show like Morning Joe that spends 90% of its airtime speculating on the lives of politicians and celebrities, trashes Michael Wolfe for what they think he said! Wolfe’s tweets contain more truth and credibility than anything Mika or Joe say or do.

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Nikki Haley was in beauty contests? That, to me, is the most shocking news of this whole side show.

Orchestrated “news” and Twitter feuds. What a world we live in now.

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In the lines you quoted, they could actually have meant “infer” (rather than “imply”). Brzezinski could have meant that Wolff inferred things from the data that he should not have inferred. Wolff could have meant to deny inferring anything about Haley; and could have meant to say he had inferred something about Trump. It’s all possible.

But I agree that it’s also possible each instance was meant to be taken the other way.

Pffft. Everyone knows Trump is having an affair with Nunes.

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This is why Wolff isn’t respected. He said Trump is certainly having an affair but he couldn’t get publishable proof. Then he said, in interviews, to read certain passages near the end and it’ll jump out at you. The most jumpolicious passages were insinuations about Haley. Eventually she was forced to deny the gossip. And then fucking Wolff has the nerve to repeatedly say she denied something she wasn’t accused of. As much as I’d like every other thing in the book to be true, and as much as these insinuations may well have some basis, who knows, that is bullshit. You’ve effectively accused her, you tabloid-trash fuck. And that’s simply wrong and not done and not respected.

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I agree with you.

I think Wolff is quite careful about his choice of words in his interviews. When asked about the ongoing sexual trysts/activities at the White House by the Preshitident, he was quite specific that he was writing based on what his sources were telling him. Wolff also asked for questions to be clarified when he thought the hosts were being vague or disingenuous.

Let us not attack the messenger. Wolff has written a good book based on quality journalistic methods and has a provided a valuable service to the American people.

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Yup, the book has some nice dirt, most of it likely true, but I would be careful citing any of it as absolute fact without some corroboration or proof (he says he’s got some tapes). I thought it was a really bad idea for them to go ‘all in’ on the book at the Grammy’s. There’s plenty of great work out there better by journalists than him. Please, let’s not make him into some kind of an idol.

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Snakepit

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Boy, they sure do care alot when anyone but Trump says something arguably dishonest.

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In his book, Wolff observes (apparently per Bannon) that Haley is “by far the closest of any of his cabinet members to [Trump],” and that he “had been spending a notable amount of private time with Haley on Air Force One.”

She and her sister were less than ten years old at the time, and both were disqualified: the only two categories in the contest were “black” and “white” and the girls were deemed to be neither.

Don’t forget that Preshitident Anusmouth-Putindickholster has years of experience.

Sexually depraved psychopaths – even insecure demented dotard ones with fake hair, baggy eyes, small hands and big buttons – can be quite cunning and creative. He has enormous resources and teams of lawyers that follow-up immediately after the tryst with suitcases of money and airtight non-disclosure agreements.

There are reports that he was involved in sexual trysts with others while Melania was in an adjoining room or very near by.

Hell, it is possible that he even returned to being a holster for Putin under the glare of bright lights at Davos.

I don’t underestimate his abilities in the sexual predator arena.

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Too cute by half, I agree.

I saw when Wolff hinted that Trump was having an affair, he did not say who, and did not say that Haley was the person he was having an affair with. There was a person who twitted or said that Haley was the women, Haley denied something that Wolfe never said. So, Mika cut him off, when Wolff was trying to say that he never said that Haley was the one and was trying to say that Haley was denying something that he never said about her. Mika planned to cut him off. It is ridicules that Mika, the Hillary e-mail lead accuser, is now accusing an author on saying something that he just didn’t say in the book or on air. It just seems surreal with Congress is destroying the Justice Department and what Mika is all upset about is that an accomplished, powerful woman denied an affair with Trump, when she was not accused of having an affair with Trump by the person she was mad at, Wolff.

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It’s a question of what level of proof you want. Respected journalists use trusted sources in a position to know the truth. Wolff is known to have lower standards. If you read his book, you might learn true things that a more careful reporter wouldn’t have passed along, because the respectable standard of proof wasn’t observed. You might also learn false things that were juicy but can’t be verified. In this case Wolff insinuated and then nudged people toward the passages in question. It’ll put more money in his bank account but trust me on this, that’s not how the really good ones play the game. It’s much more toward the skanky tabloid end. And it’s infuriating because a) people are hurt by this stuff and b) the subject is too important. This isn’t some twit of an entertainer he’s writing about. This stuff matters. Everything that can inspire people to yell “fake news” threatens the future of this republic right now. Most people can judge the quality of the information they deal with, but many can’t. It’s a real, serious problem.

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Mika your full outrage should have been used against the liar in chief each and every time he spread BS via your show. You and Joe facilitated Trump BS for months before the election. If you don’t like Wolff’s book stop using it to giggle over the parts you do like. Both you and Joe have used it as a visual prop on the set since the day it was released. The term hypocrisy comes to mind.

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I think he’s right. I believe the first time I heard of this rumor was when she denied it. I assumed that people were at least talking about it, but thought it was weird because she didn’t seem like his type at all and it was the first denial coming from the Trump Administration that I found credible.

But once Wolff denied he had “inferred” that Haley was the one, they either needed to prove that he made the claim or STFU. And that’s why she got mad. She had planned to bring him out so she could defend Trump against one of the only accusations that was obviously false, and realized she had goofed and looked like an idiot on her own show.

And yeah, they don’t bullshit on Morning Joe. It’s steaming piles of elephant crap all the way down. The fact that they ever feuded with Trump only shows how thin-skinned he is. If Joe and Mika are getting to you, you suck and need to stay home.

How fucking stupid are these people?

Wolff did not imply ANYTHING about Nikki Haley, he is implying that Trump is having an ongoing 'affair" with HOPE HICKS.
Read the book. It is clear as day that is why he is implying.

Sad to see Morning Joe slipping back into his old habit of carrying water for the Republican Administration.

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Trumpers on Twitter have been very antsy and have suddenly become snowflake feminists protesting the alleged slut shaming of Haley. Wolff is exactly right. Wolff never named or accused Haley. Wolff’s book talks about her strong political ambitions. That’s it. The rumor showed up in obscure social media and Haley has, wittingly or not, drawn attention to it. The MSM, which is desperately looking for a way to discredit Wolff, is calling the rumor ‘disgusting’ without recognizing that Wolff didn’t name her, and also ascertaining if the rumor has any truth to it. Would Bill Clinton have gotten such a pass?

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I’m ashamed to say I was dozing off this morning but had the TV on early after taking the dog out, and saw the whole bit. It was Del Persio that began the tirade and the attack. Then no sooner had she done so, Meeka quickly jumped in with her faux feminism hat totally screwed on backwards to defend Nikki Haley, who needs no defending. It looked entirely preplanned to generate one of those “did you see what happened on TV” moments these morning media people crave for ratings. The unfortunate thing was they sandbagged him and would barely let him answer, not that Wolff answering would have cleared up anything particular, since he likes all the attention himself. The reality, as I see it, is Wolff alluded in previous interviews, more like a tease for his book, for people to read between the lines to see who it might be that’s having an affair with that fat orange short-fingered vulgarian in the WH. Someone (Maher, originally?) said, “Haley” and he wouldn’t answer directly, as is his habit when being interviewed. Instead, he played coy. That’s basically it. Others have said it was Haley, and the only thing I can tell is that Wolff has never admitted or denied what folks are trying to guess is the person he originally referred to…primarily because he’s a media whore to start out with, and this just adds to the buzz surrounding the book, and eventual sales I’m sure.

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