Discussion: More People Affected By Travel Ban Than White House Initially Claimed

I wonder if I could add the situation in Rome just before Caesar crosses the Rubicon? Farmers forced off their lands, soldiers given land with no knowledge of farming, and the working poor edged out by freedmen. Bread and circuses didn’t quell the mob, the mob is Rome.

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Excellent and I’m glad you did bring it up.

The difference between the crossing of the Rubicon and the problems in Europe that led to the rise of Fascism and what has happened here is that those dire economic conditions don’t exist. Unemployment is still at historically low levels and the economy has been ticking along - not roaring, but roaring isn’t necessarily the best thing for the economy all the time.

Anyway that is the glaring fallacy in the argument that we are repeating the same pattern. It’s not at all comparable, except in the deluded minds of some Americans who live better than fucking royalty lived during most human epochs,

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It’s okay. I don’t think the White House really needs access to accurate information before issuing 0ublic statements…

Thank you.

You have now scared the bloody hell out of me, and I didn’t think I had any bloody hell left to scare out.

O but they got Ricky Perry as Dept of Energy Sec… DOE runs the labs and facilities making fissionable materials, just saying.

And you won’t find more responsible, sane, sober people in any federal agency. They’ll out them in a heartbeat if they try.

Plus, if you were trying to pull off a false flag nuclear terror conspiracy requiring deviousness and brilliance to circumvent the tightest controls and security all of our paranoid ingenuity could devise over seven decades, would you really pick Rick Perry to be a key player?

And what happens to all those people that paid for long trip plane tickets (expensive for a lot of people) who arrived here and were promptly turned around and sent back to the country they came from? Do they even get their money back so they can put that money towards another try later in order to come to this country? I thought about that too. Seems like its a financial setback too.

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109, 720 or 90,000: Their rational is that it is “a small price to pay to keep our borders secure”. Of course, any price is a small price if they are not the ones paying it.

Unfortunately I think we are all going to be paying in the longer run as this ill conceived ban will make us less safe.

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Bingo