Discussion: Moderates Go Down In Key House Dem Primaries As National Dems Fret

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No I was responding to someone else who used it.

But yeah I was condescending to you since you condescended to me first.

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If the blue wave fails to materialize,it won’t matter.

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Agreed, but I think we have a long way to go before we’re in danger of ideological overzealousness on the D side of the aisle. And if they win their primaries, I’ll still root for the likes of Doug Jones, Conor Lamb, and even Joe Manchin if it means taking back the House and Senate.

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I don’t think there was any editing. the comments by a national democrat were worthless. The DNC is corrupt and part of the problem.

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@tena

We’re either doing well or failing. Take your choice based on where you get your news.

It was a night of victories for at least seven Democratic women running for the House in a state that has an all-male congressional delegation of 20 and a Statehouse dominated by male politicians. Female candidates showed strength in nearly every region of Pennsylvania, from the Philadelphia suburbs to the conservative southwest.

@sae44444 The DNC is corrupt and part of the problem.

You’re going to have to elaborate.

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Good catch. The writer must’ve meant Reddick as opposed to Eastman. I take issue with another sentence in this story — not a typo, but flaw in the writing that reflects a flaw in the reporting:

But most Democrats privately say they would have preferred a young female veteran …

Did the writer “privately” interview “most Democrats”? Why then did “most Democrats” in the district “privately” vote for Wallace? And in fact, why did the DCCC support Wallace? Seems that “most Democrats” — privately and publicly — supported Wallace. What the writer means is that most Democrats that he spoke with wanted “a young female veteran.” But obviously, he spoke with an unrepresentative sample.

Sorry about the rant on this. But it’s a pet peeve — writer shouldn’t have written it, and editor should have caught it.

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WE members. . .sweetie, We.

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Electing today’s Moderate Democrat is no better than electing a once moderate Republican.

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Morganelli was awful - AWFUL! - and Ashford wouldn’t have won. Folks who keep running over and over in the same district like him - people just get tired of them. If Eastman doesn’t win, Ashford wouldn’t have either. I would have preferred Reddick in PA1 though.

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I don’t think that this Article has a very clear grasp of what It means to be a moderate Democrat.

There is no explanation of what made Wallace more moderate – all I’ve read seems to indicate that it was the immense amount of money that he spent that made the difference, not policy That’s not all bad when it comes to winning in the general in an expensive media market, but again it didn’t seem to be policy differences that were the deciding factor

Also, I am not sure in what universe an anti-immigrant pro President Trump Democrat can be considered a moderate.

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Blooper in 4th paragraph–I believe the last sentence is supposed to begin with “Reddick”, not “Eastman” as written.

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“Eastman, like Ashford, had previously been a Republican — a fact Wallace made sure voters knew with his bevy of campaign ads.”

Umm… I think you mean Reddick was also previously a Republican? Wallace was running against Reddick in Pa race; Ashford and Eastman were going at it in Nebraska. A couple of jumbled paragraphs in this article.

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@cameron_joseph might want to edit that one sentence. The other feedback is worth considering, too.

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good points Joey. But don’t judge progressive democrats vs republican democrats. People will chose progress and good government if given the clear choice. So don’t think supporting single payer will hurt a candidate.

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Moderates my ass. This is a bullshit article title that reminds the reader why TPM should always be considered an Establishment publication.

Voters are tired of the go-along-get-along DNC model of republican enabling; and they’re expressing this dissatisfaction by promoting candidates who better reflect their values.

Message Shorter- F*** the whiners who are being shown the door for failing to deliver meaningful resistance or who have been unable to protect working class voters.

Or did you really think it was an aberration that Bernie Sanders came from nowhere to nearly unseat HRC?

Incrementalist Dem’s don’t bother responding- I’ve heard you BS before and I’m not buying your Quisling rationalizations.

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Well, there is one silver lining. They prove over and over and over again that Einstein’s definition of insanity is correct…

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I really don’t see why national democrats are fretting. These elections tell me two things:

A. Democratic voters are not interested in ex-republicans.Stick with your buddies. We don’t want you.
B. Democratic voters are not interested in making nice with Whiny AT ALL.

In other words:

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yep …

as there are a couple of jumbled comments here in the replies -----

It’s about whatever it takes to get the ship headed back in a positive direction …
That means being free and able to slide a little upon our ideological spectrums —
Being rigid is what got us here in the first place —

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I am for whatever works locally as long as it’s blue, and for most part follows the democratic values. Don’t want to see a repeat pf 2016 bernie bros outrage, and they are still there.

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But Democrats are “fretting”!

Oh, my.

“Clouds and shadows” can’t be far behind, now…

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