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Mikeās opinion and $5 will get ya a cup of coffeeā¦
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Is bourbon more dangerous than wine because itās ten times stronger?
IMO, no. Mikeās being stupid here.
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It both perplexes and amazes me how the vast sums of money spent over half a century on studies trying to establish that marijuana is either meaningfully harmful or has beneficial medicinal effects have failed to produce any clearcut, unequivocal, reproducible results and how passionately those on both sides of the issue are about advocating for legalization or continued criminalization on the basis of those studies.
The only clearcut evidence of harm Iāve seen is the finding that about 9% of users will develop a degree of dependence that is functionally equivalent to addiction. The only clearcut evidence of benefit Iāve seen is the chemo nausea studies.
Which brings me back to the alcohol and tobacco comparative standard. If you canāt show itās more harmful than one or both of those, thereās no reason it should be illegal.
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Big Cotton money on the table. Big wood-pulp money on the table. You get the ideaā¦itās capitalists trying to stop competition - exactly as Marx predicts they will.
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Didnāt realize he was a scientist who has any actual expertise in this subject. Itās this type of make-believe nonsense that harms good policy. Legal marijuana still isnāt legal for kids. Will there be a slight uptick in pot smoking teens if it is just a bit easier to get when it is legal? Perhaps, but it wonāt become an epidemic as there is no evidence that Iāve ever read that legal weed will lead to a nation of weed smokers.
And when it is legal, people will smoke it without the fallacy that it is a highly dangerous narcotic, which may lead them to actually listen when the govāt tells them that meth and heroin are actually, in fact, highly dangerous narcotics.
Lastly, alcohol. Itās worse, legal and widely available.
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The vomiting, wishing for death and terrible next day that result from over-imbibing each are qualitatively different as lived experiences, but I canāt say that one is actually worse than the other.
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āWhat are we going to say in 10 years when we see all these kids whose
IQs are 5 and 10 points lower than they would have been?ā the
billionaire businessman and former three-term mayor said, according to
the newspaper.
Weāll say that these kids obviously come from Red states that are reinventing āedumacashunā to fit their world view.
Why wonāt this d-bag go away?? (Coming from a NYāer)
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You guys need to make up your minds. Either hemp is totally different from dope and thereās no reason hemp should be illegal just because weed is, because it has subclinical THC levels or else the two are the same thing. One or the other. It canāt be both.
Cotton farmers would grow hemp, cotton brokers would broker hemp, paper and textile manufacturers would consume hemp, and seed producers would produce hemp seed, if it was legal. The people who cut and deliver pulpwood would take a hit because wood takes a long time to mature and is usually grown on land that canāt be cultivated, but the idea that thereās such a thing as Big Woodpulp with the power to keep dope illegal because they fear hemp cultivation is ridiculous.
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I might also mention that IQ tests mostly predict a persons ability to take IQ tests well.
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Heās right. Cuz no one has been smoking marijuana these past years. s/
I didnāt know that Bloomberg had been doing scientific research while simultaneously running NYC. I feel like a slacker already.
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I agree with him. I live in CA, and I live around one of those āpot shopsā. Iāve seen some dumber than doorknob kids hanging around there. Any time you talk to them, their ability to communicate and sound intelligible is clearly hampered by their copious use of extremely strong MJ. There should be very strong limitations on who can access this drug. It certainly shouldnāt be people less than 18, and probably the legal age should be higher since we know psychological development can extend well into the 20ās.
He must own lots of tobacco and alcohol stocks. Because kids arenāt smoking more marijuana because it is legal in Colorado and Washington. The same crowd would be smoking it whether it is legal or not. Last I checked Bloombergās specialty is investing. And just because someone is good at making money does not make them an authority on any other subject.
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No , Michael
Itās not the marijuana thatās making people stupidā¦
It 's dietary--------
Rabid Fox, Toxic Tea and GodSwill .
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Right, because those same kids wouldnāt be hanging around their dealers house if it were illegal.They will be doing the same thing whether it is illegal or not. Just because you didnāt see it before does not mean it didnāt happen before. Would you say that legalizing gay marriage would make more people gay? Because thatās the same sort of idiot logic.
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Iāve been to a lot of bars and nightclubs in my life, and have seen the same phenomenon. Except with a large dose of violence and belligerence thrown in.
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This is one of the dumber comments out there. You claim to live around one of those pot shops.
Ever live around or near a bar? Ever seen people who were so fried on whatever the bartender was pouring that they were permanently brain damaged? Well, I have and that sight makes using pot look pretty tame by comparison.
Take your stupidity walkingā¦
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So whatās the problem? I thought that was one of the GOPās primary goalsā¦
Ahem!
Few, if any clinical trials based on double-blind methods and no long-term repeatable studies. As usual Mike is full of shit:
One major roadblock is that despite more than 20,000 studies dealing
with both marijuana plants and cannabinoids ā compounds made from
concentrations of the cannabis plant ā federal research into the drugās
use to treat disease (or side effects from common therapies, such as
chemotherapy) is still limited by U.S. law that strictly controls access
to the plants, even for clinical trials.
and moreover
Only one facility in the U.S. is permitted to grow pot for federally
approved studies: the University of Mississippi. Since 1968, any
pot-based product going through the proper FDA process in accordance
with the the National Institutes of Health has come from Ole Miss and
its School of Pharmacy research professor Mahmoud ElSohly.
Q.E.D.
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Unlimited access to money and privilege appears to drop oneās IQ considerably more than 10%. Maybe we should do the progeny of these wealthy yahoos a favor and tax the hell out of their parents.