Discussion: Mexican Restaurant Gets Backlash For Shirts Advocating Trump's Impeachment

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Republicans again demonstrate feigned hysteria, bad judgment, animus against entrepreneurs, censorship, and general hostility toward freedom and liberty.

They are capable of promoting some of the most extreme behavior towards their opposition, but when presented with a tiny bit of negativity, they are the fastest pearl clutchers on the planet.

I have no belief in their overly sensitive responses.And then they try to project that on liberals and Democrats. It is for show, to create outrage where it does not exist. No doubt the Republicans have a camp for training their people in such things.

Lets play tit for tat. This T-Shirt versus any 5 minutes of a Trump Rally, audio and video.

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“86” in rest. lingo can mean both “sold out, not available, (and frequently) NOT welcome” as in banned from entering.

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I have used the term all my life. I never knew it was specific to the food industry. I have used it and heard it used as dropping or ditching something.

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Just in time for Solstice! Where do I place my order?

Sen. Elaine Morgan would be more likely to wear a “69 45” shirt.

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I want one for Xmas.

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Even better and more accurate.

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FWIW -

“86” originated in Old West saloons: when a patron demonstrated that he was unable to function reasonably after drinking the usual array of liquors sold during that period ( frequently proofs of 105-120) the word would be passed that this person would be heretofore relegated to the lower proofs (80-86).
Hence, the term “86” became a signal of someone’s ‘weakness’ and skepticism thereby attached.

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That’s a prime example.

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Some would call it divisive, but they’re idiots.

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And just in case the dolts didn’t think of violence, thank you, Elaine Morgan! (But that’s not giving them enough credit.) My favorite bumper sticker: Any Functioning Adult 2020!

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Only if they offer him free samples and replace the cilantro with romaine lettuce.

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They have a wide variety of such shirts.

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This interests me. Do you have a citation from that period?

The earliest examples I’ve seen are expressions from the restaurant business in the 1930s.

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I must confess, my reaction as I ponder this story is:

“Hey, if you can’t stand the T-shirt, get out of the kitchen…”

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I don’t think so – this is the same damn crap that the MAGA snowflakes do, time & again. Then they scream at us about conservative voices being silenced (or so we’re told, repeatedly and loudly by conservatives).

Although I understand the restaurant owner not wanting to deal with threats and backing down, I wish she hadn’t. There are a lot more of us on the winning side of history than Republicans.

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I understand, but there are a lot of impressionable people out there.

Consider this (from so-called “Urban Dictionary”):

If some idiot had taken up his gun with this sort of thing in mind, with that T-shirt on, it really wouldn’t matter who his victims were or what thoughts he might have had about being “on the winning side of history.”

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Here are a few more theories:

86 Bedford Street: Author Jef Klein theorizes that the bar Chumley’s at 86 Bedford Street in the West Village of Lower Manhattan was the source. Klein’s 2006 book The History and Stories of the Best Bars of New York claims that the police would call Chumley’s bar during prohibition before making a raid and tell the bartender to “86” his customers, meaning that they should exit out the 86 Bedford Street door, while the police would come to the Pamela Court entrance.

Documented 1944 use: According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first verifiable use of 86 in the sense of “refuse service to” dates to a 1944 book about John Barrymore, a movie star of the 1920s famous for his acting and infamous for his drinking: “There was a bar in the Belasco building … but Barrymore was known in that cubby as an ‘eighty-six’. An ‘eighty-six’, in the patois of western dispensers, means: ‘Don’t serve him.’”

Electrical Protection: According to IEEE Std. C37.2-2008 (and previous versions of this standard which was originally published by the American Institute of Electrical Engineers [AIEE] as AIEE No. 26 in 1928), Device Number 86 is a lockout relay, which is a “device that trips and maintains the associated equipment or devices as inoperative until it is reset by an operator, either locally or remotely.” In lay terms, an 86 device “locks out” a piece of electrical equipment, which is to say that it turns the equipment off so that it cannot restart until the appropriate person investigates the problem and then resets the 86 device.

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Wait, I want one to match the 8645 bumpersticker I’ve got!

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That’s true, but there are earlier documented uses in the sense of “sold out.”

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Yup, the same Wiki article says this:

The term is part of restaurant slang, seen among restaurant workers in the 1930s, where 86 meant “we’re all out of it.” Walter Winchell published examples of similar restaurant slang in his newspaper column in 1933, which he presented as part of a “glossary of soda-fountain lingo.”

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