Discussion: McConnell On Trump Owning Gov't Shutdown: 'I Hope That's Not Where We End Up'

If Trump manages to do this we’ll all find out just exactly how much the country wants this dumb wall, and I don’t think the popularity scales will tip in Trump’s favor. He’s an asshole if he shuts the government down, and that’s of course why he very well may do it.

I hope he does. No one comes through that politically intact, and we’ll win the Senate for it in 2020. And maybe it will finally push Trump’s ratings down into the 20s where they belong. Or no. They belong at zero, but we have too many Trump adoring nutcases for that.

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OK … so why was Pence there?

He’s the embodiment of Plan B, in case Trump melts down completely and resigns or is impeached/removed before 2020. The R’s need to remind everyone in clear visual terms, about Plan B sitting right there in the room. It helps calm the nerves, I guess.

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And by “smooth ending” he means breaking every rule and norm necessary to get exactly what he and his donors and his oligarch Chinese father-in-law want, America Last.

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Yeah, with his eyes and mouth (dutifully) closed.

Not a good look.

Also, Trump lied again.

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Like Mitch cares ……

He doesn’t even think about the ponderous chain he himself already bears —

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He looks like he wants to cry but can’t

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Don’t worry. McConnell is doing enough damage.

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A valid question as we contemplate a unilateral shutdown of the government.

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anybody have ears …… yet can not hear ? ? …. Mitch ? ? ….

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/11/op-ed-from-44-ex-senators-warns-of-dangers-to-u-s-democracy.html

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Pelosi and Schumer talking to press after. Pelosi says the reason they wanted to have it behind closed doors is so they didn’t have to call out Donald’s lies in public.
https://caching.grabien.com/c/streams/0519/NqlojNvN7AZheyDpEEBRcQ/1544604303/519805.mp4?key=NqlojNvN7AZheyDpEEBRcQ

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Was he being grounded for Ayers and has to sit in Trump’s office for the week? Was he allowed to speak?

It’s all damn weird with Pence. There’s some creepy submissive thing going on.

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Looks like you are the winner in the Trump vs Pence stupid contest.

H/T @erik_t

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Not bad, especially as they were addressing themselves primarily to reporters — except I still think Schumer should be making more out of Trump’s “Mexico” promise.

Thanks, by the way, for posting the clip here for everyone.

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“I understand it was a rather spirited meeting…”

Yes. Those spirits were the Ghosts of Democracy Past, Present, and Future.

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The expression on his face makes me assume that he was thinking the very same thing.

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I know it’s asking way too much but … Be honest, Yertle. We all know you don’t give a flying fuck because you and your fascist cronies will still get paid while retirees and the disabled — I believe you refer to them collectively as “parasites suckling on their unearned entitlements” — will have their checks delayed for who knows how long.

Oh, and Kindly Go Fuck Yourself.

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So Mitch, with Republican majorities in both houses, remind us why the President was even talking to Schumer and Pelosi. 'Splain that to us.

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“I hope that’s not where we end up…"

“…and here’s what I’m gonna do to prove that I just lied to you about that…”

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Yes. One of Anthony Bourdain’s last shows was filmed in West Texas. None of the people he talked to wanted the wall- there’s too much cross border “life” that a wall will put an end to or make very complicated at best.

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It wasn’t just west Texas, it was far West Texas - the Big Bend and Terlingua. Yeah we saw that and it was so good.

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