Discussion: Mattis Tight-Lipped On Trump's New Afghanistan War Strategy

Mattis has “tight lips” and Trump could not be more pleased.

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Mercs? Trump’s buddies were lobbying heavily in this direction.
If there is a decision to ramp up the forces, that’s not usually a secret, as I recall. I’m probably reading too much into the silence. Maybe he just doesn’t want Trump to formulate a new policy on Twitter the moment the official announcement goes out.

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Enjoy your career of selling gold and reverse mortgages at 2 AM on FoxNews after your stint with President Spirochete comes to an end, Tight Lips.

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The Trump strategy on Afghanistan is “Get on thy knees and pray there is another violent Nazi march somewhere that the media can talk about because we don’t have a strategy”.

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Trump’s Afghanistan strategy is probably to let Eric Prince and his mercenaries fight. They’d be subcontractors to Trump’s newly formed company Trump Warfare Corp., N.A. Trump would get 10% off the top.

#MAGA

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That’s the best that Mattis deserves. The strategy meeting was held without the current top commander on the ground in Afghanistan being present - and Mattis went along with this. That’s not a stance of honor in my opinion.

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Don’t be stupid. Mattis is the Secretary of Defense, and a life-long believer in the chain of command, not an autocrat. He’s not going to tell the press anything if he’s expecting the official statement to come from POTUS. More, if this meeting was about setting direction and long-term strategic planning, anything revealed to the press at this stage might endanger US lives.

It’s one thing to talk about a specific goal everyone knows you have, like retaking an occupied city, and set a rough time-frame when your goal includes flushing the enemy out into the open. The city can’t be made into a seriously hardened target, especially against air power. If you can get them to try to flee before the noose tightens, they run right out into the net. That’s sensible.

Taking that same approach toward the Taliban, who are at least partially comprised of life-long residents of the areas of Afghanistan they control, wouldn’t flush them out. It would only give them a window to stockpile more into already-hardened, relatively secure cavern networks where air support is more or less useless.

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Except the current theater commander said his viewpoints were represented by Mattis, who has been a boots-on-the-ground battlefield commander. If the in-theater brass had a problem with this, they wouldn’t make that (or ANY) statement on this meeting. Mattis was doubtless briefed and brought up to speed, and probably has daily briefings on the Afghan situation.

The man’s got a sharp military mind with decades of battlefield and in-theater command experience. He doesn’t need to pull the theater commanders out where they can’t do their jobs in order to do his. Stop knee-jerking just because he reports to an imbecile.

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The one time it would have made sense to look toward Russia for advice on something and he chooses ignore history…

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Mattis did not mention that Gen. Joseph Votel, who as Central Command chief is responsible for directing the war in Afghanistan, was not invited to the Camp David talks. The top U.S. commander on the ground in Afghanistan, Gen. John Nicholson, also was not invited to attend.

But Gorka was there, right?

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Mercenary Army Grifts Afghanis

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I don’t consider my skepticism about military strategy in this administration to be knee-jerk nor do I consider dommyluc’s comments to be stupid. You’re making assumptions about “doubtless” and “daily briefings” and are ready to credit both the substance and integrity of what is happening regarding Afghanistan. I hope you’re right but it is not unreasonable to question - especially when the administration has admitted that Erik Prince’s proposal to privatize that entire theatre for personal gain is being considered.

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There’s questioning, and then there’s straight-up attacking. Which one do ‘enjoy your career of selling gold and reverse mortgages at 2 AM on FoxNews’ and ‘that’s the best that Mattis deserves’ sound like to you?

I’ll trust the Marines I know who served under Jim Mattis in Iraq to have a decent measure of the man’s character until he demonstrates they’re wrong. Mercenaries don’t seem to square with what Mattis would approve of. With that in mind, there’s basically two likely options that I see: either he put his foot down, and now he’s letting Trump take credit for listening to him (which is a smart move, because you let the blowhard take the credit and act like it was his idea to keep him listening), or Trump’s ignored his advice. If that’s the case, then undermining the command structure isn’t going to do anyone any good, and would likely endanger lives on the ground.

Am I making assumptions? Maybe. Maybe I’m just being optimistic, and taking the advice of people whose opinions I trust. And maybe if someone like Jim Mattis has gone completely around the bend, we’re all pretty much walking dead already, so adopting the pessimistic view—which is just as based on assumptions of malfeasance and weakness from a man who’s never displayed either—seems to me to be both premature and, frankly, defeatist.

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Wow.

Afghanistan will still be around in the next election, because a real estate developer got it in his mind that he’s really a brilliant military strategist, who knows more than Central Command.

And the rural folk who send their daughters and sons into the Middle East Incorporated meat grinder will keep voting to leave their children in danger.

Our religious institutions are severely corrupted.

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Trump will do what will make his base happy - that’s a big big problem.
He is going to get people killed because he doesn’t have the mental capacity to do the right thing and make “wise” decisions.
Trump’s decisions are all about Trump… SAD

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ERIC PRINCE, for about 10 billion a year, has offered to ‘run’ the war for TRUMPf…what an insult to AMERICA’S MILITARY… after 15 years of the military personell., fighting and dying…they are told by a draft -dodger. ‘your services are no longer needed, we will send in the hired hands to do the job’…AMERICA’S shaming is completed.

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and, AFGHANISTAN’S vast mineral resources will go to the ‘spoils of war’ group…that is what this is about,TRUMPf and PUTIN will ‘share’ AFGHANISTAN’s mineral/oil wealth.

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Actually mercenaries are actually a good idea, because Erik Prince can give Trump or his sons 15% or 20% kickback, which is something that they will not get from the DoD.

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What you are talking about? Heroin is the real wealth in Afghanistan, Erik Prince get to profit both ways. The only drawback from Trumps point of view is that the price of heroin might come down and there will be more over-doses, seriously eroding Trump’s voter base.

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