Anyone supported by that sexist jerk Tim âthere are lots of women besides Pelosiâ Ryan doesnât deserve any consideration.
Good for the Black Caucus. Come on Dems, now is not the time for one of your food fights. We need someone that knows the ropes. In two years when things are maybe starting to change a wee bit pick another speaker.
sexist jerk?
How so?
If she wants to, Fudge can make things difficult for Pelosi, but winning the Speakership is another matter.
Of course the CBC supports Madame Speaker. Theyâre not stupid. But Ms. Fudge does appear so.
There is nothing wrong with Nancy. She has been an effective leader and for that reason demonized by the GOP/Fox News complex. Dems can elect anyone else and s/he will suffer the same fate if effective, and tons of scorn if not. Better stay wiith the proven leader, accusations that she is âdivisiveâ are ridiculous specially if you compare her to the Republican Congregational leaders, Ryan, McCarthy, Scallise, McConnell⌠and not to mention Trump. They hate her because she is a woman, and believe me, electing a black woman will not stop Trump insults.
Nailed it
Hello? We need Nancy for the next two years. She is an excellent leader. Without her we would not have ObamaCare. She knows how to play the game. She will take it to trump. The 5 white guys pushing this have less of a progressive voting record than Nancy. WTF??? Iâm beginning to think of these anti Nancy folks as traitors.
Traitors is who they are.
Oh, Fudge! Why do we Dems insist on doing this to ourselves. Who but Pelosi could have gotten Obama Care thru during the time of the Party of No?! Put her in, but make her start grooming the next gen if not an heir apparent. Why lose all that skill and experience? Gotta stop running scared from the GOP.
but make her start grooming the next gen if not an heir apparent.
Thatâs part of the problem. And she wonât âstart groomingâ anyone. Ever see her and Schumer share the spotlight with younger members? And her âBetter Dealâ, where did that go? She gets so many passes as if sheâs an âUntouchableâ. Rep Fudge is exactly right.
Letâs not forget: Pelosi pushed the ACA through when Obama buckled, but she also is responsible for the 65(?) House seats the Republicans picked up in 2010, two years into Obamaâs presidency. And made no progress in taking back the House in 2012, 2014, 2016. Where was she then?
ETA: And then thereâs this problem - through the eyes of our now largest voting block - Millennials.
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Actually the scorn will spew regardless of effectiveness or failure, so Dâs need to do what they have to do, and I think theyâve started to learn that. Pelosi sure has, she plainly doesnât give a ratâs ass what fresh steaminâ pile oâ beauty the RWNM squeezes out on any given day.
What I find the most disturbing about this is the possibility that some Dems may be stupid enough to try and form their own version of the Freedumb Caucus.
what disappoints me is the FUDGE is already whining about racismâŚand why is she the front for 5 white guysâŚwhy didnât one of them put themselves âout thereâ?
I canât, for the life of me, figure out the play here.
If what Josh has written is right and that Moulton et al. are anti-Pelosi because sheâs too left/theyâre too right, then it seems like their actions would put McCarthy in (or close) to the Speakerâs role. I guess as a pure ideological move (if those Dems are really blue dogs in hiding) maybe is makes sense in a pure realpolitik way⌠But I canât imagine Moultonâs constituents would be happy about that.
Even if as Dem youâre not excited about the gerontocracy at the top of the party, electing McCarthy doesnât help you foster development of young, new Dem members.
Vote for Nancy on the contingency that she, Steny and the rest of the nanas and papas commit to a transfer of power over time. It aintâ rocket science.
Because sheâs a stalking horse for themâŚ
See here: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/slash-and-burn-2
It lets them put her out there to cry racism, hope she brings along some easy marks who buy into that line, so that the centrist, rightist Dems donât have to put out there that the real reason they donât like Nancy is sheâs too liberal.
the younger, new to office DEMS obviously havenât considered that the old guard was once âone of themâ⌠they persisted and learned⌠its a long ,tough road, no short cuts and no whining.
I havenât researched how many of the newly elected Dem reps are on the record as ânoâ on Pelosi. I know Jared Golden is just because he was asked about it repeatedly during the campaign. Iâm sure there are others. Hopefully thereâs a principled way (from their thinking) for them to get out of those rash promises.
She is clearly doing so in her own and allowing the anti Pelosi wing to use her. The sad part of this is that whether Pelosi wins or not, Fudge has damaged her standing by going about things this way.
Yesterdayâs Huffington Post interview did her no favors. Whatever has been thrown at Pelosi over the years has never included racism, and Fudgeâs complaint that is she wealthy who fundraised off wealthy people is just stupid.