We, as in those of us who read the June the Washington Post articles that some now
seem not to remember.
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I keep thinking of the video with the activists from Black Lives Matter taking the microphone from Sanders and how Republicans wouldâve used that in the most repugnant, race baiting, hateful ways imaginable.
Was talking to a guy on FB the other day who, in response to a NYT piece discussing the FBIs agreement over the Russian hacking, was adamant that Russia hadnât hacked the DNC. He âknewâ it wasnât true because heâd seen something on FB that proved it. Multiple people posted dozens of links from more than reputable sources, and he didnât believe any of them. I unfriended him. Canât have that kind of stupid in my life.
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We hold an awfully high standard for the rest of the world, donât we now. And cry the loudest.
And after eight years and youâre still using âBlack man in the White Houseâ? And âI wanât my unicornâ?
Sorry dj (hehe) but:
You must leave now, take what you need, you think will last
But whatever you wish to keep, you better grab it fast
Yonder stands your orphan with his gun
Crying like a fire in the sun
Look out the saints are cominâ through
And itâs all over now, baby blue
Bernieâs relentless criticism of Clinton was a factor, also. He poisoned her to millions of young people.
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I love Bernie.
What transparent bullshit. Millennials never gave a shit about the Sanderâs âsocialistâ label anymore than todayâs young voting age Cuban Americans give a shit about what happened at the Bay of Pigs. Youâre living in the past and using lame excuses for Bernieâs certain demise. The âjewishâ label would have been more of a threat than Bernie as a socialist.
Iâm surprised you didnât express outrage over the fact that the Sanders honeymooned in the old Soviet Union! STFU with your Bernie bullshit.
I think you mean he exposed her weaknesses? And young people saw it.
With that, we donât need any more post in this thread⌠it all comes down to that.
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BS. And it wasnât the MILLENIALS that voted now was it? I have great hope for them in the FUTURE but if you SERIOUSLY think they would have put Bernie âover the topâ YOU are living in a dream world. AlsoâŚâtransparent bullshitâ? Did you even KNOW who Bernie was before this cycle? We have a house in Vermont and have been following both Bernie and Dean for DECADES and are well aware of the foilables and strengths of both of them. Kiss off.
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Poor Bernie⌠Couldnât defeat the little DNC, but wudda totes beat the Russian hackersâŚ
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I agree there were multiple factors - Josh wrote an interesting perspective on this over the weekend that also takes into account the DNC belief that they had the election sewn up so spent their money running up the popular vote in places where they were assured victory like California - see his editorial On the Eve of Disruption: Final Thoughts on the 2016 Election.
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Thanks for that. I hate to have to keep defending Sanders. He surprised the Clinton Gang and she was damaged in the process. Itâs not his fault Trump used it against Hillary.
'âThe Republicans do shitâ is an ugly truth but the Democrats worry too much about image, âdoing the right thingâ and being the âgood guysâ. Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight!
Just donât tell me you love Bernie and then trash him in CAPS. And Millennials, like my two sons, voted for HRC after Bernie lost the nomination. And yes I believe they would have put Bernie over the top. Hillary was as foreign to them as the rest of the Democratic Establishment. It was viewed as a âchangeâ election if you didnât know.
And BTW, while you were skiing winter weekends in VT I lived and worked on Killington Mountain for two years. I think I know a bit more about VT than you do.
Anyone who pretends Hillary lost the Electoral College for any reason other than the savaging of her public image is missing the point.
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No, Bill and Loretta didnât talk about the grandkids for 30 minutes. He didnât just run over to say hello to a friend without thinking about the consequencesâI have seen nothing indicating that the Clintons and Lynches are close friends.
He did it to send a messageâthat he, Loretta, and Hillary are all part of the insiders club, and Loretta should keep that in mind when making any decision.
I am sure that when Bill saw his plane next to Lorettaâs he believed it was chance to meet with her without anyone being the wiser. If it wasnât for the security detail leaking, no one would be.
Regardless of the issue of how it affected the election or whether Trump is worse, what Bill did was clearly wrong. Like Hillary and her email server, Bill knew it was wrong, but he did it anyway. This is a trait with the Clintons.
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And wait until they started on HIS spouse.
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Saying that Bernie âdamagedâ Hillary in the primaries is equivalent to saying that she shouldnât have been challenged in the first placeâit should have simply been a coronation.
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Youâre right when you think it through. So what, a coronation? Big deal. Move on, handle the criticism, beat on Trump - uninterrupted. But Bernie looked like the perfect fall guy. One way or another, it certainly looked like a win - without being damaged. Actually, itâs a tough call, isnât it, LOL!
But yea, a coronation was the path to take.
Heâs one of the many who admired Stephen Colbert for his Right-wingedness Report.
âIs that Loretta? Is that Lorettaâs plane parked right over there? Why, I think Iâll just run over and say hello! Iâve got some stories about the grandkids that I think she would love to hear!â
Do you actually believe that, Frog? Then who is the idiot?
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